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[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That sounds like the typical libertarian excuse used when they aren't amongst fellow conservatives but trying to come off as not on the side being criticized.

Better defense would be saying yeah Andy may or may not want to be part of the inner circle like Tim Cook who is bending the knee to Trump for more money even though people know he isn't racist or against lgbtq. And sure he chose to ignore that Slater worked for the Internet Association maybe hoped people wouldn't dig further and chose to portray Republicans as being more the party of the little guy, because he may or may not have wanted to be part of the new tech inner circle with Zuckerberg, Musk, Bezos by publicly signaling praise.

But, the company itself is not in the US so hopefully that keeps things from getting worse even though the company chose to double down making the statement again from Protons official account so it became not just a Yen statement but a Proton one before deleting everything when response wasn't what they hoped of people joining in on the praise. So maybe they learned their lesson and will go back to focusing on proton products as opposed to political endorsements.

https://archive.ph/quYyb

Basically more than 75% of that anonymous totally not Andy Yen article is nothing but fluff going look how not racist and homophobic he is when that stuff does not matter in the least bit when billions are potentially involved as best demonstrated by Tim Cook. That article is like the golden example of identity politics with how it brings it up to shift attention away from Slater endorsement despite her history with the Internet Association infringing among privacy of consumers and Republican whitewashing as the party of the little people.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 week ago

That anonymously submitted medium article that gets floated around ignores Internet Association, so wouldn’t be shocking if it was from proton attempting to do PR damage fixating on identity politics with intentional omission of Internet Association involvement.

Yen conveniently ignored that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by “small business” like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.

And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

So yeah, proton founder cherry picked information that tried to make it seem like it was acceptable to praise the pick when reality her past is too murky to endorse.

Apple Tim Cook showed that ideology doesn't matter when monetary greed is involved, so falling to look how not intolerant Yen just comes off as a diversion from the criticism regarding him choosing to praise Slater by omitting details of her history that didn't fit the pro consumer narrative for the little guy.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 weeks ago

Tankies feel like they push pseudo communism with the bourgeoisie still at the top giving scraps to the proletariat and passing it off as paltry socialism. There’s no societal change to the hierarchy, balance of power, or wealth. Usually some power of personality to rally around as their God who's surrounded themselves with oligarchs who are enriching themselves and providing scraps to pass off as communist enough.

It’s more a weird ultra nationalism where proletariats are being tricked into thinking power has been given to the people when the ones at top are abusing their power to oppress forms of counter thought to seize whatever they want and retain their wealth. I wouldn’t consider them left just because there’s some form of socialism. Lot of countries do if at the very least they fix roads and have fire fighters.

The integration of authoritarianism just conflicts with my idea of communism, since my idea of communism is power to the people and one where the government fears the people because people control the means of production and they choose who stays in power. Not trading the usual suspects of kings, dictators, warlords, or whatever they call themselves for a different coat of paint.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No he didn't. He just says this kind of stuff to seem impartial but continues to push the same right wing agenda to his cult followers.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Not that surprising since on reddit the proton-team account stated the same positions as Andy did on Twitter before deleting after they saw the message wasn't taken well. They didn't bother to distance it as opinions of Andy, but took the stance of it being an organizational opinion.

https://archive.ph/quYyb

And you can see reddit user responses bringing up Slater's background but being ignored. Kind of funny the medium article writes an essay and does so much research into showing how Andy isn't racist, but doesn't do any research on Slater.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That anonymously submitted medium article that gets floated around ignores Internet Association, so wouldn’t be shocking if it was from proton attempting to do PR damage fixating on identity politics with intentional omission of Internet Association involvement.

Yen conveniently ignored that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by “small business” like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.

And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

So yeah, proton founder cherry picked information that tried to make it seem like it was acceptable to praise the pick when reality her past is too murky to endorse.

Apple Tim Cook showed that ideology doesn't matter when monetary greed is involved, so falling to look how not intolerant Yen just comes off as a diversion from the criticism regarding him choosing to praise Slater by omitting details of her history that didn't fit the pro consumer narrative for the little guy.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

I found it odd back then that they shifted to strategy of saying how could he support Trump if Yen isnt sexist and isnt homophobic when uproar was Slater's anti consumer past being ignored. And they kept shifting away from Slater career criticism like some form of gaslighting and ignoring it. And it worked on some people, since they forgot about the positive endorsement of Trump's pick while omitting Slater's murky past because look how not racist Yen is.

But, Tim Cook groveling before Trump showed that people who's goal is to make more money will sell themselves out to try and get within the inner circle if it is more financially advantageous to do so regardless of their personal ideologies. Money and power rules them. It's fortunate for Proton the sucking up didn't get them any further, since who knows if Yen would be giving golden gifts at Trump's dinners if he'd been invited into the fold. "Dear Mr. President you are the most privacy respecting leader in the world and here is a golden statue as a gift."

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That article is such bullshit. That anonymously submitted medium article that gets floated around ignores Internet Association, so wouldn’t be shocking if it was from proton attempting to do PR damage fixating on identity politics with intentional omission of Internet Association involvement.

Yen conveniently ignored that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by “small business” like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.

And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

So yeah, proton founder cherry picked information that tried to make it seem like it was acceptable to praise the pick when reality is the past is too murky to endorse in any manner.

Now seeing straight up bribing and gifts from corporations not even hiding it the whole thing aged like milk.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That article is such bullshit. That anonymously submitted medium article that gets floated around ignores Internet Association, so wouldn’t be shocking if it was from proton attempting to do PR damage fixating on identity politics with intentional omission of Internet Association involvement.

Yen conveniently ignored that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by “small business” like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.

And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

So yeah, proton founder cherry picked information that tried to make it seem like it was acceptable to praise the pick when reality is the past is too murky to endorse in any manner.

Now seeing straight up bribing and gifts from corporations not even hiding it the whole thing aged like milk.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

RSS app of choice still remains my preferred method to retrieve articles from sources I want.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Seeing as how they've taken over and their influence is spreading seems it's been very effective.

There is something to learn from them when it comes to their ability to win over the masses with their approach and no middleground tactics. They don't seem to get swept up into trying to appeal to both sides.

Right wingers seem way far ahead of the curve when it comes to media outreach.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I used to think the same but now I want custom Roms even more now than in the past for things like GrapheneOS with the desire to lessen involvement with Google or Apple.

 

Instead of going to the Android community it goes to /c/all when I try to visit while logged into lemmy.ca. I tried logging out and back in to see if that would solve it.

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