throwwyacc

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[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What imperialism is America doing currently?

But besides that, even if your nation is doing imperialist things surely you would agree that maintaining an army to not get your country absolutely destroyed by any other country at any time is valid

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Right, but why do you require every person in the country to work under a co-op? Is it not enough to let them choose?

In your socialist society if a group of people agreed that they would like to set up businesses under a different model what would you do?

And further, if you're calling for an enormous change to the way we structure our economy then shouldn't you be able to articulate how that system will work?

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (24 children)

How do you get your initial capital to start the co-op? Like you can't have investors, so is every worker required to buy in the the initial venture?

By the way you are entirely free to structure companies this way under a social democracy

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Do you believe that a nation has no need for weapons?

Or rather is it immoral for a nation to keep and equip a defence force?

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

Wait so what's your example of a functioning socialist state/economy? You mention the USSR, Maoist China, Cuba and the Chiapas. Which of these do you consider a success?

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (33 children)

Isn't market socialism literally just a form of capitalism? Like if you still have markets and a profit incentive then you're not really socialist

Not saying that's bad, just thinking really it has always seemed to me like capitalism with a strong social safety net. Which to me seems ideal, just want to know if I'm missing something?

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago

Yes this will bring people over to your cause surely. Jesus christ this site sometimes I swear

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you think investors make decisions in real time? Like do you think the fire services called each member of the board and asked for a vote? I swear some of you guys have never considered any part of the system you supposedly want to dismantle

I think it would also be healthier if you didn't consider the wealthy as inherently your enemy. Try to consider the actions taken by these people as individuals, otherwise you truly will never get anywhere as any outside person will rightly look at you like a lunatic

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

Do you have any data to back that up? It would be quite interesting

I don't think regulation is impossible to achieve, look at the EU. And what I am fairly sure of is you have better odds of passing regulation than replacing capitalism entirely

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So material waste can be directly tied to cost. If you're trying to bring down cost then you're going to try to reduce waste correct? That's why there is so much work being done for reusable launch vehicles

For space debris and pollution I don't think we can squarely blame capitalism. Under a purely communist economy there's no guarentee that anyone would care any more about it than currently And you can attack that issue by a combination of penalising companies that create debris and rewarding those that remove it under a capitalist economy

As for it not being entirely comparable. Sure the government spent a lot of money on that early R&D. But do we think that if we banned companies from doing this kind of work that govt agencies like NASA would be necessarily more cost effective, cause less pollution, and less debris?

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago

Ah I see you're a perfectly rational individual with a perfectly sane world view. Carry on

[–] throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only thing I can think of is if a significant portion of people self diagnose as autistic and they really aren't. Say they're convinced by some silly stereotypes they've heard

That won't impact that person. But it could mean other people starting to take it much less seriously in others which may be harmful to them I don't pretend to know if that would happen. But just a thought

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