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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (16 children)

I am not in this chart because my favourite programming languages are too nerdy for the cool programming nerds to include in their nerd chart.

[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

Same here.

VHDL represent. Although it's arguably not a "programming language"

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (6 children)

You work at IBM or something? Who even still uses VHDL?

[–] Trimatrix@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A ton of people. Anything aerospace, DoD, Space, or critical infrastructure. All those industries have to use VHDL to support legacy products from the 80s and 90s. At that point everyone is like, “Sure its 2025, by why switch to SystemVerilog? We already know VHDL.” and thus you got a whole army of engineers making next gen satellites, augmented reality headsets, etc. ….. in VHDL 93.

[–] Agility0971@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it such a hassle learning verilog if you know vhdl or vice versa?

[–] Trimatrix@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not really, HDL is HDL. At the end of the day, as long as you know what you want to do electrically then everything else is an exercise of translating that desire into VHDL, Verilog, or SystemVerilog. The only real hassle is creating test-benches and verification simulations. But at that point it’s discretionary towards the designer. A lot of tools coming from Intel, Xilinx, and Synopsys allow you to “black box” components. So a module written in VHDL can be incorporated into a design or test bench written in verilog and vis-versa. IMHO VHDL is still dominant because grey beard chief engineers throw a little hissy fit at design reviews when they learn the junior engineers did everything in verilog.

[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Tbf, I am not a grey beard chief engineer, and I strongly prefer VHDL for design. For verification I actually really like SystemVerilog.

VHDL is strongly types, which prevents a lot of issues with types that I've hit with [System]Verilog.

Also, having learned VHDL first, I think it is easier to go from VHDL to Verilog, as opposed to vice versa. And this is mainly because VHDL is stricter.

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