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[–] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 130 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The behind the bastards episode will teach you a lot about this piece of shit. Wozniak is the genius, this is just another predatory businessman. Good riddance.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yknow, while I 90% agree with you there seems to be some element between the technical genius (Wozniak) and the idiot businessman that is Tim Apple.

Jobs may have been a piece of shit but there’s something to be said for the uncompromising non-technical focus on UX that allowed Jobs to make the iPhone a success.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Sure Wozniak invented the Apple I and II. But if he never met Jobs his inventions would have stayed a hobby and Apple would have never existed. Woz also didn’t push for an OS with a GUI (which was revolutionary back then) that was Jobs’ idea. Not to mention that Woz had nothing to do with Apple’s comeback. He has been an honorary employee since Jobs was fired. Woz is a genius but people give him way too much credit just like they do with Jobs.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 7 points 22 hours ago

"Invent" is the wrong term, it's "design".

a new idea is an invention, the implementation is a design.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jobs had no ideas. GUI, like everything else, was stolen from someone else. Apple and Microsoft both got big by stealing ideas.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Is it really stealing if you pay for it?

Xerox PARC had lots of great ideas, and then just never really commercialized any of them.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Woz had great ideas he never would have commercialized without Jobs either, no doubt that that was what he brought to the table: a pricetag.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wow, they made 4 episodes about him, each over an hour long.

Haven't listened to Behind The Bastards but will give this one a listen.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Oh boy, welcome to the Bastards club. Brought to you by Raytheon and Blue Apron.

If you like that they're all pretty solid, but I recommend you check out the MKULTRA episodes. I thought I knew about it, I didn't know the half of it. I didn't even know about the one way mirror masturbatorium.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Careful, it's addicting, I've probably listened to over 100 hours of Robert Evans talking about the scum of the Earth now.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Not to worry, I'm binging a few addicting podcasts already and I need something to fall back to once they run out. Recently discovered "Lateral" by Tom Scott (the youtuber).

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Still remeber an interview to Buffet in his time when he used to hang with Bill Gates.

It surprised me he considered Gates a talented investor, like he shouldn't supposed to be. I mean Warren, Bill is an investor as much as you are. Even Buffet was confused from the "tech nerd" aura of Bill.

Same with Jobs, Musk and so on. They're just good investors (and usually despicable persons).

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Im sure the iPod was Wozniaks idea.