I mean I feel like i agree with you on everything, other than you believe political change is possible and I dont. I also do not believe you have argued that the outcome is remotely likely, only that its more possible than revolution.

It would be easier to get a shitload of progressives elected into positions of power in the US via the democratic party than it would be to lead a successful revolution to overthrow the US government

Let me float a third option, which is the current state of the country will remain unchanged. The economy will eventually collapse under the weight of the capitalists, triggering worldwide economic collapse, and then WW3. I'm just praying fascism loses again in the end, and that the systems can survive long enough for me to die naturally first.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

praying fascism loses again in the end

Well, that's what pretty much everyone on the far left is doing, which is going to do absolutely nothing to change anything, and that's my point. Tear down the Dems and the not-progressive-enoughs all you want, at least they have their asses out there trying to do something instead of literally waiting to die.

[–] save_the_humans@leminal.space 1 points 2 hours ago

There's an idea on the left about building horizontally, or from the ground up, for there to be something to fall back on after the inevitable collapse of capitalism. These are things like community food systems, mutual aid, cooperatives, land trusts, etc. The left is active in local politics, supporting unions, organizing, and so on. Not all of us that worry this system may be beyond saving are actually just waiting to die, but doing what we can where we can with limited resources.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

The dems "trying" to do something is fucking meaningless, also the thing they are trying to do, is to generally stop the gov from going more right, never reversing direction. And you can mock the left hoping things change, but unfortunately the left has been effectively removed from politics, so outside of the outrage bubbling over into revolution there is a single thing the left can do. You must live in a different reality from me i guess, enjoy it, sounds nicer than the real world.