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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[–] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's still not a solution. That entails non unified communication, access, and search. Making it easy to log in to others still doesn't solve easy sharing between others. Also oauth2 is a pain to set up, and many people hosting their own instance aren't going to bother.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry but what exactly do you communicate and access between discord servers? Are you talking about PMs which are by default independent of servers?

Unified search could easily be achieved through third party tools at the least, like for IRC. I don't think even discord has unified search between servers.

[–] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Oh hey, you're totally right, that's crazy. I use Beeper (hosted matrix setup) to aggregate my chats and I guess I've always been using that to search across all servers without realizing. Fully thought the DM search would also search across servers.

DMs are definitely also another case though - you can't easily DM people on another server if that requires you to log into another server.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

That's true about DM, however DMs are not a core use-case for discord-like services. It's the group/voice chats etc. I could see a workaround like lemmy does, where if you want to DM a user in another server, you might be able to do it through your fediverse instance (i.e. a DM simply has your fediverse instance DM their fediverse instance), but I'm sure there can be more elegant things like. However DMs by themselves are a weird thing by themselves, so much so, that even bluesky had to bolt DMs on-top and outside of their protocol.