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It's nice to see the senate opposition functioning.

Edit: 18 hours of holding the senate floor, giving voice to the american people. Lots of tears as american suffering is read out loud for the congressional record. Testiment from Americans across the country. This is the voice of the people. Please click the link, share and watch. The media needs to know we care about the opposition more than we care about trump rambling on a plane about fort knox.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

That really comes down to if you are a progressive or a neoliberal.

I think people just don't like critiquing Bernie

In 2015 Bernie Sanders had the biggest grassroots campaign in US history, with more individual doners than any canidate ever. From the perspective of anyone under 30 he was going to easily sweep Trump before he dropped out.

Bernie was asked by the DNC to drop out of the race and asked his supporters to vote for Hillary Clinton, most of his supporters absolutely hate Hillary Clinton so they didn't vote for her and then Trump won his first election.

The Neoliberals blame the Progressives, and the Progressives blame the Neoliberals.

But IMO at the end of the day it was the Neoliberal canidate that lost to Donald Trump, so it's their fault. The Neoliberals knew their policies were unpopular and decided to try to bait and then guilt progressives into voting for them. You can see some are still committed to guilting leftists into supporting right wing Neoliberals.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thanks for explaining. Sounds like the US had a chance to break out of the two-party dictatorship but gave it away for a short term chance at a single term. This is really sad, but Im also convinced the people in power wouldnt simply let it happen. The system has made them so insanely rich and influential that probably nothing short of a violent revolution could break it.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

most of his supporters absolutely hate Hillary Clinton so they didn’t vote for her and then Trump won his first election.

6-12% of Sanders supporters voted Trump. ~82-83% of that 6-12% were conservatives. Bernie had broader appeal with everyone except the "vote blue no matter who" crowd because policies that immediately improve people's material conditions are popular. Telling someone who is struggling to make ends meet "America is already great" is not popular.

For comparison, 15% of Clinton primary voters voted republican in 2008

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How many didn't vote or voted 3rd party?

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The statistics don't say, but I suspect enough that the dems would have won if they'd either nominated him or adopted his policies instead of ratfucking him in the primary and telling the people suffering who liked his policies they're doing just fine.