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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't that exactly what's happening as soon as you install win11?

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

To be fair, plenty of telemetry is still being sent by Microsoft in Windows 10. It's not as bad as 11 though.

[–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Depends on how you define security.

Is win11 more cryptographically secure, absolutely.

Does that matter if you don't trust the holder of the keys (the Microsoft keys stored in the tpm) not really.

implementing a more secure platform doesn't mean much if the only way you are doing it is by handing over control to a third party.

Would you trust a better lock on your front door if it meant a proven bad actor was the one who could unlock it?

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

If the EU is allowed to employ guards in MS's buildings and to roll their own secured version of Windows, I wouldn't mind sticking to Windows 11 EU. On the other paw, if DOGE is given access to Microsoft, I shall flee to Linux. Hopefully, SteamOS Desktop will be a thing if the latter happens.

[–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For the avg person why not trust them I’m not too worried about what they can collect on an average person I use Linux personally so I’m not shilling for Ms but 11 will keep out more hackers then 10 cause I wouldn’t be worried about them stealing my card info but a hacker yes i would be

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Even if you trust their intent to not misuse your data, there are now a lot of live rpc hooks into your operating system, controllable by anyone who can compromise their azure implementation, which has happened at least twice in recent memory. If the data never leaves your device, and they didn't have a way in, they wouldn't have those things to lose in the first place.

The interdependency itself, regardless of intent, is inherently more dangerous than the previous separate paradigm that used to exist.