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[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 96 points 1 day ago (39 children)

I'm still flabbergasted we've arrived at games costing 100€ now. Not some collector's edition, just the normal game. On a console that'll set you back 500€ on its own, not to mention the service subscriptions. Even the god damn next-gen improvements for existing games supported through backwards compat now cost a 2-digit sum. What's next, subscriptions for device features (which you already paid big money for) to work like it's a freaking BMW? It's just utter insanity, and people are still paying for all that shit.

[–] Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh boy, do I have news for you! The Nintendo Switch 2 has a C-Button on its controller which opens their new feature "Game Chat" for which a Nintendo Switch Online subscription is necessary. This means there is now a dedicated button on the controller, which will open a popup that tells you to buy their subscription!

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago

And it definitely isn't going to get accidentally pressed at the worst possible moment, interrupting your gameplay and likely making you lose! Especially in an online game!

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's next, subscriptions for device features (which you already paid big money for) to work like it's a freaking BMW?

I mean, yes, they already announced that in the direct. The new GameChat built-in-discord thingy is only free until next March, at which point you'll need a subscription to continue using it

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

I mean the switch already had that with cloud saves and multi-player locked behind a subscription.

[–] qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For me, they're the same price they've always been 🏴‍☠️.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

They will keep doing it as long as people keep buying it.

Having a lot of fun on games that cost a tiny fraction of that. I think Isonzo is the most expensive I bought in the past few years and its £40, got it in 2022.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Those backwards compat costs ain't optional either. Either payup (for each game) for super HD or don't play your existing games at all.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Almost all Switch games are natively compatible with the Switch 2. Stop spreading fake info, it does not help making whatever case you're trying to make.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, bad wording on my side. I meant they do not need upgrade packs.

I guess they created some internal translation layer (comparable to the Wine project?) to run the games.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where is your source? And no they are not natively compatible. The systems have different architectures!

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 15 points 1 day ago (5 children)

There's a difference between switch 2 edition (upgraded versions) and original switch 1 versions. It can run both, you don't need the upgrade (unless you want the newer features).

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do the switch 1 titles run in native (e.g. not upscaling) 1080p without paying more since that should just be a simple render change?

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Games that ran at 1080p in docked mode should be able to do that on Switch 2, presumably the console could be smart enough to run the game at that resolution even in portable mode.

Otherwise, that definitely depends on the game engine and game programming. Not every game can handle arbitrary resolution changes.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

are you serious??? what the fuck

[–] Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And on top of all that, patent trolling to hamstring any competition. I'm done encouraging their nonsense with my money.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago

Remember their attempt at patenting relative motion? Absolutely absurd…

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I could understand if it was a cutting edge powerhouse system. But it's apparently somewhere around PS4 Pro level hardware.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which is, to be fair, impressive for a highly mobile device. Kudos to those engineers. All that scummy fucking extortion shit still is fucked up though, no matter how you look at it. The only reason anyone buys this is because of the brand and its beloved exclusive franchises. In a more fair environment they'd be utterly demolished if they tried to pull of this bullshit, and the practice of preventing you to play your own older games to make you buy them over and over again (or hell, even not owning your games anymore) would be outright banned.

Hello, mister preacher, I'd like to join your choir.

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