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I have been avoiding multiplayer Valve games like Counter-Strike 2 and Team Fortress 2, due to their in-game economies that have created an underage gambling gray market, which Valve has done little about. However, I am on Linux, and the choices for multiplayer shooters are few. Besides, my small boycott is not stopping Counter-Strike 2 from being the most played steam game. Are boycotts really the best solution to stop this epidemic in gaming? How can we best prevent these gambling grey markets and the gaming to gambling addiction pipeline?

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[–] gandolfini_the_grey@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is a very smart and thoughtful perspective. One should consider their time and money as valuable, and not put it in games they disagree with. Do you have any good alternatives to recommend for the most popular Valve FPSs?

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You might not like my answer, but I haven't really played new FPS games in years, because basically none of them are doing what I want. I'm well served in basically every other genre right now, but these things are cyclical. We're just getting through the era of indie FPS games inspired by Doom/Quake and other more maze-like shooters, and we may soon be entering the era where FPS games are inspired by my favorites. My multiplayer these days is usually fighting games, and the only ones that will give you trouble on Linux are Dragon Ball FighterZ and the upcoming 2XKO, both due to anti cheat.

As an aside, I'll also say that where you put your time shouldn't matter, if the product is free, for instance, but it does matter in online video games. Your presence in matchmaking is adding value for someone else who might spend money in the game, so you'd still be helping the causes of CS2 and TF2 just by playing on the official servers. For TF2, I think the code just went open source and there's a revitalization project to bring it back to what it was like at launch? If so, that might be pre-loot-box, and playing that version of the game would help send the message you want to send. The same might apply to old versions of Counter-Strike.

[–] gandolfini_the_grey@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a fine answer, thanks!

[–] Chesckers@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I myself am against fomo. So we are sort of similar a little bit at least. We both dislike dark patterns.

I second that fighting games are mostly a mecca for us. I recommend Guilty Gear Strive, basically the only complaints people have about it nowadays is that it and it's lobbies can load kind of slow, and some subjectively don't like the gameplay, but that is up to you to decide (personally I love it's gameplay). The new Virtua Fighter also looks incredible, maybe when it releases it will suit you well.

I also agree that tf2 classic looks great. It's like the tf2 we grew to love but without the bullshit. When it releases on steam hopefully it gains traction.

Other games that are extremely pro consumer that I enjoy are Due Process and Straftat.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Even when deep discounted to a dollar, I have a hard time calling Due Process pro consumer when it doesn't let you host the server yourself.

[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I like a FPS but I have the most fun with the PVE sub genre of FPS. Left 4 Dead 2 and Deep Rock Galactic being my two favorites. Playing against other humans can be annoying if the skill balance isn’t right and if they’re cheating then it makes it no fun, imo.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I haven't been into FPS for several years, but if I was going to play anything current, I'd give The Forever Winter a look. It's still being worked on, but the early access gameplay is really cool looking, and it's bringing a lot of ideas to the table creatively.