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[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 145 points 4 days ago (6 children)

That's fucking wild! Mexico is not South Sudan or Afghanistan, failed states ruled by warlords. It will start with "we're only targetting cartels" and conclude with "these terrorists are purposely using hospital staff as human shields, what would you have us do?!"

[–] AverageGoob@lemmy.world 142 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Wild take here but I don't really think the US should be bombing ANY other nation.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not even Israeli or Russian troops in Palestine or Ukraine?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The US could just stop sending weapons to Israel and the fighting will stop too. As for Ukraine, Zelensky has tried to make deals with Russia before and the West told him not to because they promised they'd continue backing him with more weapons that would give them the edge, which the US is obviously reneging on now (which, to be fair, is something Trump sort of said he'd do, so you could argue that's been democratically decided).

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Agreed on Israel, but you are WILDLY misrepresenting the context and tenor of the Ukrainian war.

[–] iz_ok@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Correct. The US should stick to the tried and true method of supplying the weapons, teaching users how to maximize their effectiveness, and assist in the logistics of the altercations.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Or just stop sticking our nose into everyone else's business.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

Into Russia's business? Because assisting Ukraine is not "sticking our nose in" their business any more than the fire department is sticking their nose in your business when you call to report a fire.

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Haha I respect that

[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Whoa! Calm down!

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 58 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Mexico is not South Sudan or Afghanistan, failed states ruled by warlords

I'll note that for the latter, it's a failed state ruled by warlords because the US rolled in and fucked everything up.

[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Afghanistan was all fucked up long before that.

[–] EvilCartyen 9 points 4 days ago

Arguably, Afghanistan has never been united as a nation in the way we think about it, at least not for long. The cycle seems to be short decades of control under some power followed by decades of decentralization and local powers.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago

I mean it wasn't exactly a shining example of progress and order, but it wasn't a failed state.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This statement is only relevant if your knowledge of history started in 1980.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean given that the war on terror started in 2001, we don't need to go back any further than 1980.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Well then, I guess it was perfect and stable prior to 2001, no need to investigate further!

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

But Taliban was in power before the 2001 invasion.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Okay, and? Like them or hate them (jk you should hate them) but they had a state; it wasn't "a failed state ruled by warlords".

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"this film is dedicated to the brave mujahideen fighters of afghanistan"

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

the only warlords governing afghanistan were the US.

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

failed states ruled by warlords

Do you have any idea how many candidates get murdered in elections in Mexico?

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago (8 children)
[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Nobody gets murdered in Russia. They just accidentally fall out of windows because they're clumsy.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Israel a better example.