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The Trump administration said it would not provide information on how it will get a wrongly deported Maryland dad home by a Friday morning deadline because the timeframe a judge imposed was “impracticable.”

In effect, the Department of Justice (DOJ) is openly defying a court order that requires it to provide details about 29-year-old Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s whereabouts and how he will be brought back stateside.

“The Supreme Court has spoken quite clearly, and yet I can’t get an answer,” said Judge Paula Xinis.

“We must heed the Supreme Court and get him back,” Rep. Jamie Raskin said.

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 98 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Do you think he’s dead or they just don’t want an exposé of the conditions?

Or that diplomatic channels prevent it? Lol.

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 78 points 1 day ago

Whether he's alive or not, it's more that they don't care and don't want to be told they have to do anything by some liberal activist judge.

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He very well could be dead, but I think the primary thing happening here is they want to create the precedent that they can't bring anyone back from this prison. That way, they can start sending "undesirable" American citizens "by mistake" and then just be able to say "not our problem".

Why would t they use windows like their friends?

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'd argue they might be testing the waters to see how much they can get away with. It could be a logistics thing, but I doubt it. I highly doubt they care one way or another about the individual.

This could be a blatant test on how far their power will extend. People haven't been saying "authoritarian" and "threat to democracy" for the past few months just for the fun of it.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, I think this is a first test to see how far they can stretch things with the law and deport people without justification at all.
By extension it tests the current regimes ability and efficiency on how easily they can remove people. When it is clear there are no legal roadblocks and delays the shipping containers and "train transports" will come out.....

Also, I don't think he's dead, might have been beaten and barely fed.
But they most likely will have no knowledge about his status or direct whereabouts at all, might even be handed over to El Salvador's prison anonymously. Regimes in such prisons usually strip all identity anyway.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But they most likely will have no knowledge about his status or direct whereabouts at all, might even be handed over to El Salvador's prison anonymously. Regimes in such prisons usually strip all identity anyway.

Yep. Why keep track of the prisoners you never plan to let out?

[–] sporkler@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

None of them can ever be allowed to return, my money's on elon's little orange helper having recorded a message that's played for the disappeared people outlining how they don't fit into his idea of a country and are going there to die, or something very similar, it fits the sadistic shit that's been being put out by the administration with their fascist ASMR videos and whatnot.

wants to be hitler but doesn't want his base to stop arguing that he's jesus.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago

Too much effort. This administration is populated first and foremost by unobservant and intellectually stunted pragmatists and yes-men.

That sort of psychological warfare is effectively outsourced and you interact with it every day.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's logistics. They threw him in a pit with a hundred other guys. Maybe you can find the one who will claim he's supposed to get out.

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

If he comes back, he'll talk. And it won't be good.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

It's because they're fascists and don't want to

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably not dead, probably being leveraged by el Salvador because Trump has no choice.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trump paid to send them there, and plans to even send American citizens.

US has its own prisons, and many are for profit, so they generate money from prisoners.

Now questions is why would we send people to a foreign country, and pay them to keep prisoners?

The answer is simple: CECOT is used to outsource getting rid of people. And unless US continuously pays them to hold them (which I doubt it was more than one time fee), CECOT has no benefit of keeping those people alive.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's used to remove them from the protections of a US citizen on us property the same as gitmo which is why gitmo is expanding to 30k prisoners. They're testing the waters without having to risk all the bullshit at gitmo at the same time. It's shitty but it's not likely to be a literal death camp specifically because no one is going to continue paying if they know that they're dead. Duh.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Who says they don't know? For trump paying once is much better deal than paying monthly. He don't want to see those people again.

I'm guessing you haven't seen this: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KpV7QizAeukuesjGA

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're paying 20k per prisonor annually bud. He's a greedy fool who rarely pays anything but he's paying this.

Cecot yes I've seen cecot. Presumably you meant to link the mounds of dirt which you didn't actually do. They might well be killing their own intentionally, they aren't likely to be doing that to Americans because payments would stop.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then I'm guessing that in that case there won't be a problem bringing that father back.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That wouldn't be a leap I would take but sure you do you.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

its PR for his rabid supporters

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

They don’t want him back because he’s not aryan.

Oh sorry wrong fascists. Same principle though

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

A lot of things are pointing that this likely is a death camp.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

If he's not dead yet they sure hope he dies quickly, right? That's the objective. Export your executions.