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[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

By age checking everybody connecting to social media

Which would require submitting personal information, like IDs, to social media organizations. You could do it better (i.e. through a disinterested third party or the government), but how likely is that to actually happen?

I'm against it mostly on privacy grounds, but also on free speech grounds. Parents should be the ones deciding this, not governments.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

But what qualifies as social media? We can all probably agree that Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Reddit, etc. count, but what about say Discord or WhatsApp? How about browsing older forums (like open ones where you don't need an account to read them)? What about news articles or blogs with a comment section? Is a wiki social media? Depending on how you define it, the majority of the internet could be considered social media.

Plus there are plenty of sites that just won't ever bother to try to comply. For example, I live in one of the more stupid states in the US that has required age verification for porn sites, PornHub has complied by just blocking their site in the state with a notice that they won't implement a system like that for privacy reasons. But they and their sister sites are the only ones I've seen that have bothered to make any changes. The same will inevitably happen with social media. You're just going to push kids to shadier corners of the internet that don't care about laws, and they're gonna end up radicalized by nazis, or taken advantage of in worse ways.

The whole problem is parents who don't want to be parents and tell their kids they can't have a smartphone. And I get that the dumbphone market is kinda limited, and that some parents just don't care what their kids are exposed to. But trying to fix this problem by changing the internet is never going to work. The only way to fix the problem is to have a spine and make appropriate changes IRL - like banning smartphones for underaged kids in school, or show your full distopian side and prosecute parents who let their kids use social media.