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How do these Natalists feel about the African continent?

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

True, but the lack of productive workers and the thinned tax base will crash the country while it all balances out. Only way to make a smooth transition is to slaughter the elderly, which is largely what will happen, just not on purpose.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If 10 dependents per 2 workers (6 kids, 4 elderly) didn't crash the country in 1950, then having more workers per dependent in 2040 won't either.

The only people who suffer from a population decline are the idle wealthy because their income comes from skimming profit from the workers.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You keep bringing up the same point but do you plan on just letting seniors rot? We literally don't have the workers to care for the elderly AND run society. Demographic collapse is a real issue

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Seniors had care when there were less resources because families had 6 kids to raise. I showed that because children take up more resources than elderly that they not only wouldn't rot, but would have more care because the resources that went to children would go to them.

We literally don’t have the workers to care for the elderly AND run society.

Yet we can have the resources to raise kids that cost even more? That makes no sense.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I literally mean there will be too many elderly for the slim workforce since many of these elderly won't have families to take care of them, y'know since nobody is having kids.

Your whole point relies on the elderly getting home are from family like a child would, but the problem is that most won't have those families and there simply won't be enough healthcare workers to fill the gap.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

children take up more resources than elderly

I can't begin to tackle that one. Jesus. You've certainly never had kids nor been old, I get that much.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

I do both. I have a mother in law in a retirement center. I have 2 kids.

How many kids do you have?

[–] munk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Seniors had care when there were less resources because families had 6 kids to raise.

Historically, this was made possible by unpaid care labor performed primarily by women and children.