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Tesla (TSLA) has to replace computer in ~4 million cars or compensate their owners (electrek.co)
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Tesla (TSLA) has to replace the ‘self-driving’ computer inside about 4 million vehicles or likely compensate the owners of those vehicles.

The liability could be more significant than the largest automotive recall in terms of cost.

In 2016, Tesla claimed that all its vehicles in production going forward have “all the hardware necessary for full self-driving capability.”

Tesla’s use of the term “full self-driving” has changed over the years, but at the time and for years later, CEO Elon Musk claimed that it would mean Tesla owners would eventually receive a software update that would turn their vehicles into “robotaxis” capable of level-4-5 self-driving, which means unsupervised autonomous driving even with no one in the cars.

Almost 10 years later, this has yet to happen and won’t happen soon in most of the cars Tesla has delivered over the last decade.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Yep, my first thought on seeing this was ... 'and who will be enforcing this?'

No one, the answer is no one.

While the information about Elon's history of making false claims, hardware and software details are accurate... there is no official body that has ruled as the title of the article suggests.

A more accurate headline would be 'should' not 'has to'.

There is basically zero chance that this guy's desire would be effectuated in the US ... as the US agency that regulates cars... was recently gutted by Musk's DOGE idiots.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/04/car-safety-experts-at-nhtsa-which-regulates-tesla-axed-by-doge/

Maybe the EU or China or other governments could... legally agree with the author, and order a similar command...

But uh yeah, the Trump admin is currently blatantly telling the Supreme Court to go fuck themselves, the law will soon be whatever the hell Trump and his orbiters want it to be, has already told the entire world to go fuck themselves and also beg and grovel at the same time.

Elon would just... continue doing whatever the fuck he wants, even if another country mandated a recall/replacement.

Sorry, but uh yeah, we have a fascist government now, the rule of law is dead, the law is now whatever the fuck the Trump admin says it is.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That agency apparently creates new safety regulations but doesn't do oversight. I think that's up to the courts? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

Technically, its complicated, but basically, NHTSA both sets the standards by which a manufacturer should assess whether or not to do a recall... and they also issue recalls themselves.

They do investigations, compile data, and if it looks like a certain make and or model has a serious flaw, they'll issue a recall if the manufacturer hasn't.

If they are gutted, specifically as they have been by Musk, well then there are no more people actually investigating self driving capabilities and onboard computers, there are no more updates to any of those policies, and nobody issues a recall for such a category of defective vehicle.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago

'and who will be enforcing this?'

No one, as long as their CEO is President and dismantling all the organizations that were barely checking him in the first place.