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[โ€“] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 6 hours ago (11 children)

I am writing right now from my degoogled Fairphone 4 running /e/OS.

I would buy again in a heartbeat.

It's definitely not the most bang for your bucks. But it's good enough for any use, it already outlived my last 3 phones, and it shows no sign of giving up (even when I was using the Google infested OS a few months back).

I'd recommend it.

[โ€“] dwazou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] boonhet@lemm.ee 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that nobody should trust any corpo, including Apple, but there's nuance to that story that never gets mentioned in these discussions.

Apple used to slow down devices whose batteries were starting to fail, in order to reduce the likelihood that your device suddenly turns off before the battery reads as empty. Simply put, if the battery couldn't guarantee a certain power output down until empty, they'd throttle the CPU.

The notably scummy part here is that they didn't tell users, and it wasn't an option you could change. To make up for it, they had a cheap battery replacement program for several years and informed users about the issue, and I believe it's optional now?

This was also several years before other manufacturers started offering OS support timelines comparable to Apple's. Apple still let you update a 6 year old iPhone when others were doing 3 years for flagships. Fairphone of course was an exception.

You should still get a Fairphone if it meets your actual needs or a Pixel if you need GrapheneOS, but if you're a non technical user who actually can make the most of a flagship, I'd recommend an iPhone over Samsung (just as expensive as Apple and these are the guys who put ads in TV UI nowadays) or Google (questionable stability with the Tensor chips in some iterations) at least. 5 years ago I'd recommend OnePlus, but those days are over. The stock ROM is now ass. I keep my old 7 pro around to play Real Racing 3 and with a custom rom I'm like 3 android versions beyond OEM support and it's actually super smooth. But I won't recommend it to a non techy user.

PS: I'm an Apple user, but not a diehard fan boy. I make comments explaining or defending them often because I feel Apple gets way more flak than their competitors who are usually equally scummy.

[โ€“] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

Additional note: they also did it with some Macbooks and I can tell you it had nothing to do with battery AGE. Machines that shower either a faulty or significantly worn battery would be slow. Apple considered 80% of nominal capacity to be the limit where a battery should be replaced under warranty on those, but the slowdowns started at like 50 or 60 percent if I recall correctly. By faulty I mean devices where the system scan in AST legally said "internal fault" or something. I used to refurb Macbooks.

It was noticeable in the 2012 macbook air because that model, a weird unicorn year with components that differed from both the 2010-2011 and 2013-2017 models, would significantly slow down with a bad battery even when it was connected to AC power. Literally removing the battery made it usable again. In other model years it was never really noticeable.

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