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[โ€“] boonhet@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I agree that nobody should trust any corpo, including Apple, but there's nuance to that story that never gets mentioned in these discussions.

Apple used to slow down devices whose batteries were starting to fail, in order to reduce the likelihood that your device suddenly turns off before the battery reads as empty. Simply put, if the battery couldn't guarantee a certain power output down until empty, they'd throttle the CPU.

The notably scummy part here is that they didn't tell users, and it wasn't an option you could change. To make up for it, they had a cheap battery replacement program for several years and informed users about the issue, and I believe it's optional now?

This was also several years before other manufacturers started offering OS support timelines comparable to Apple's. Apple still let you update a 6 year old iPhone when others were doing 3 years for flagships. Fairphone of course was an exception.

You should still get a Fairphone if it meets your actual needs or a Pixel if you need GrapheneOS, but if you're a non technical user who actually can make the most of a flagship, I'd recommend an iPhone over Samsung (just as expensive as Apple and these are the guys who put ads in TV UI nowadays) or Google (questionable stability with the Tensor chips in some iterations) at least. 5 years ago I'd recommend OnePlus, but those days are over. The stock ROM is now ass. I keep my old 7 pro around to play Real Racing 3 and with a custom rom I'm like 3 android versions beyond OEM support and it's actually super smooth. But I won't recommend it to a non techy user.

PS: I'm an Apple user, but not a diehard fan boy. I make comments explaining or defending them often because I feel Apple gets way more flak than their competitors who are usually equally scummy.

[โ€“] chaos@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. I had an iPhone 6S that was affected by this. When the battery was starting to get older, things like opening the camera would sometimes just cause the phone to die. I got the battery replaced for free, but flipping it to throttle instead of randomly shut itself down was an improvement, and likely extended the usable lives of the affected phones, not artificially shorten them. It shouldn't have been done secretly but it wasn't a conspiracy to sell more iPhones.

[โ€“] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It shouldnโ€™t have been done secretly but it wasnโ€™t a conspiracy to sell more iPhones

If they weren't trying to sell more phones they'd have given you a notification with instructions to replace the battery and designed it in a way that a person with no special skills could do so instead of just crippling the device.

[โ€“] chaos@beehaw.org 1 points 18 hours ago

I mean, yeah, I said they should've told people, that was a bad decision on their part. I'm just saying if it was a conspiracy to sell more iPhones, it was a dumb one, because the net effect was to make the phone more usable. It wasn't crippled, certainly not more than "this thing just shuts down when the camera is opened sometimes."

[โ€“] boonhet@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Additional note: they also did it with some Macbooks and I can tell you it had nothing to do with battery AGE. Machines that shower either a faulty or significantly worn battery would be slow. Apple considered 80% of nominal capacity to be the limit where a battery should be replaced under warranty on those, but the slowdowns started at like 50 or 60 percent if I recall correctly. By faulty I mean devices where the system scan in AST legally said "internal fault" or something. I used to refurb Macbooks.

It was noticeable in the 2012 macbook air because that model, a weird unicorn year with components that differed from both the 2010-2011 and 2013-2017 models, would significantly slow down with a bad battery even when it was connected to AC power. Literally removing the battery made it usable again. In other model years it was never really noticeable.