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[โ€“] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

Apart from the excellent repairability, this would feel like a downgrade from my S21 Ultra. Love the concept though.

[โ€“] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

My key feature is a headphone jack. I'm really bummed to hear the FP5 has none.

[โ€“] Maiq@lemy.lol 7 points 2 hours ago

I really wanted one but it's hardware isn't supported by grapheneOS. I wish these two companies would partner up, that would be the best of both worlds.

[โ€“] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

I am writing right now from my degoogled Fairphone 4 running /e/OS.

I would buy again in a heartbeat.

It's definitely not the most bang for your bucks. But it's good enough for any use, it already outlived my last 3 phones, and it shows no sign of giving up (even when I was using the Google infested OS a few months back).

I'd recommend it.

[โ€“] dwazou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] boonhet@lemm.ee 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that nobody should trust any corpo, including Apple, but there's nuance to that story that never gets mentioned in these discussions.

Apple used to slow down devices whose batteries were starting to fail, in order to reduce the likelihood that your device suddenly turns off before the battery reads as empty. Simply put, if the battery couldn't guarantee a certain power output down until empty, they'd throttle the CPU.

The notably scummy part here is that they didn't tell users, and it wasn't an option you could change. To make up for it, they had a cheap battery replacement program for several years and informed users about the issue, and I believe it's optional now?

This was also several years before other manufacturers started offering OS support timelines comparable to Apple's. Apple still let you update a 6 year old iPhone when others were doing 3 years for flagships. Fairphone of course was an exception.

You should still get a Fairphone if it meets your actual needs or a Pixel if you need GrapheneOS, but if you're a non technical user who actually can make the most of a flagship, I'd recommend an iPhone over Samsung (just as expensive as Apple and these are the guys who put ads in TV UI nowadays) or Google (questionable stability with the Tensor chips in some iterations) at least. 5 years ago I'd recommend OnePlus, but those days are over. The stock ROM is now ass. I keep my old 7 pro around to play Real Racing 3 and with a custom rom I'm like 3 android versions beyond OEM support and it's actually super smooth. But I won't recommend it to a non techy user.

PS: I'm an Apple user, but not a diehard fan boy. I make comments explaining or defending them often because I feel Apple gets way more flak than their competitors who are usually equally scummy.

[โ€“] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

Additional note: they also did it with some Macbooks and I can tell you it had nothing to do with battery AGE. Machines that shower either a faulty or significantly worn battery would be slow. Apple considered 80% of nominal capacity to be the limit where a battery should be replaced under warranty on those, but the slowdowns started at like 50 or 60 percent if I recall correctly. By faulty I mean devices where the system scan in AST legally said "internal fault" or something. I used to refurb Macbooks.

It was noticeable in the 2012 macbook air because that model, a weird unicorn year with components that differed from both the 2010-2011 and 2013-2017 models, would significantly slow down with a bad battery even when it was connected to AC power. Literally removing the battery made it usable again. In other model years it was never really noticeable.

[โ€“] jnod4@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

How's the cameras? My Samsung cameras are absolutely incredible and I've finally managed to leave my olympus camera at home and it's incredibly useful to have something that can relatively compare

[โ€“] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] wunderkatze@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Dresden always looks nice no matter the phone. ;)

[โ€“] Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

Looks good until you zoom in a little

[โ€“] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Nice pic! For me, it is often motives that move that are tricky to shoot

[โ€“] Cyber@feddit.uk 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have a FP3+...

I'm actually feeling guilty about considering a FP5 because my current phone works absolutely fine, had recent updates and I have a good spare battery ready to swap out on long days... so... I'll probably stay with this one even though I want the new one

For how long did you had the FP3+? How much did it costs?

I currently have the Xiaomi Redmi Note 9 Pro and bought it for 250โ‚ฌ. Ofcourse I'm awear that it's a Chinese phone but I bought it when I didn't know any better. This year it will be 5 or 6 years old but still works for the daily needs and I like to use things till the break or aren't really useable anymore.

So I'm curious how much yours had cost and for how long you used it. Also some other questions:

  1. How much do you use the phone?
  2. How long does one charged battery lasts?

If you don't feel comfortable with sharing information don't answer the question but I would be interested as I maybe want my next phone to be a Fairphone too.

[โ€“] TheMightyCat@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_5_(fairphone-fp5)

Audio

Status : Broken No driver for the audio codec yet. No internal speaker or microphone is currently working. You can get all sounds via Bluetooth or USB peripherals.

That's a shame :(

[โ€“] antipiratgruppen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But that's only the case for postmarketOS, and not the stock OS, right?

[โ€“] TheMightyCat@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I would assume so, Its probably only broken when using a linux distro like postmarket and not the stock android it comes with.

I hoped this was a linux phone where all the features just worked but sadly not.

[โ€“] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago

Fairphone is benefiting from the economies of scales!