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[โ€“] Maiq@lemy.lol 26 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I really wanted one but it's hardware isn't supported by grapheneOS. I wish these two companies would partner up, that would be the best of both worlds.

[โ€“] houseofleft@slrpnk.net 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Might not be the same, but they do partner with Murino to offer an /e/os degoogled alternative.

[โ€“] timestatic@feddit.org 2 points 41 minutes ago

You mean Murena?

[โ€“] Maiq@lemy.lol 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

That's cool. At least its degoogled. GOS's security is a must for me though, after using it I don't ever want to go without. But I'm glad fairPhone is offering alternatives.

[โ€“] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

GOS's security is very cool, but my threat model does not justify buying more disposable tech just for that.

[โ€“] houseofleft@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, it does have a big security emphasis. I don't know enough about either /E/OS or GOS to know how they compard but /E/OS does some cool things like sandboxing apps etc for security.

[โ€“] kent 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

It's a useful comparison, but biased. The fact that it gives "all green" to the GrapheneOS choice of using actual Google Play though sandboxed, while MicroG is all red... Is hard to defend. So you have to actually read the whole thing instead of just looking at the colors.

Also, it's somewhat outdated.

The /e/OS I'm writing from now has an alternarive network location provider, built in UnifiedPush support, and it passes Basic Integrity, at least since December last year.

[โ€“] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

GraphineOS hasnt been a company since they split off from copperheados and rebreanded to GraphineOS, they have no budget to maintain more phones. In addition Fairphone has a long history of severe security problems, using publically available keys for verified boot, having a broken implementation of verified boot, delaying critical security updates, not providing all promised updates, and not having the hardware security features that GraphineOS demands. Heres the thing, GraphineOS is the most secure mobile OS because they dont compromise on security. Putting GraphineOS on the fairphone would require watering it down so much that it wouldn't truly be GraphineOS anymore.

[โ€“] Maiq@lemy.lol 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I get the reason gOS only supports the pixel, its the most secure hardware. Would never want them to water down their security for anything. I would very much like fairPhone to meet or exceed gOS security demands. That way they could be paired together to achieve a true completely degoogled secure phone.

There is no way for them to do that, GOS requires a security chip with a standard only Google meets atm. For Fairphone to meet GOS requirements not only would they need to improve their security but they would need to build several custom chips (that are not cheap nor easy to design).