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Fucking do It already. Everyone involved from the ground up.
Sounds like that's where it's heading:
We need to protect that judge.
There's a very good chance he'll accidentally fall out of a 10th storey window
I think this is likely to be the hangup. Everything with this administration is so chaotic and ad-hoc that it might be hard to pin it on a single person or group. If they don't have beyond-reasonable-doubt certainty that the person they're holding in contempt is responsible, it'll probably just get overturned, weakening the bigger Trump v Courts battle.
-"Who was responsible for XYZ?"
- "I don't recall."
Ok, then I am holding YOU in contempt!
This is the way.
Soooo, citizens can be shipped off to El Salvador eh?
Pretty much this is what I'm worried about. Hopefully the government record keeping laws are robust enough that they can eke out a real answer about responsibility by threatening additional charges over failure to document those.
assuming they weren't sent via self-destructing Signal messages, which itself is a violation of records law
I'm pretty sure they are using a private network for email exchanges.
Maybe we can get copies of their messages from Russia then.
Sounds like a RICO case then.
I'm not sure you can easily turn contempt of court into a criminal conspiracy charge.
Money was exchanged for ~~humans~~ human resources, in illegal activity.
You're probably not wrong, but hopefully there's at least a paper trail the judge can work his way up.
If any paper trail exists, the government will deny it exists, while concurrently setting fire to it and any other evidence they might have left.
Annnnnd then Trump Pardons them
You still need to do it. And then add in some unpardonable civil contempt.
Then you roll over like a bitch while everybody else does what they can to help, but keep quiet next time.
This is as fast a just court can go. If you want it done more quickly, we’ll need Republicans in Congress to find their spines.
They only have until the 23rd to substantiate their defense before Boasberg charges them. He also states that if Trump’s DoJ refuses to comply, he will appoint an attorney to do so.
Dems too.
That’s assuming people actually turn out to the primaries. At least they’re doing what they can to oppose this compared to the Republican enablers.
And honest, extant primaries.
Congressional primaries are honest, they’re just not attended. The average Democratic congressional primary turnout is ~20%. You know who always shows for primaries? Old people, and lots of ‘em.
Jessica Cisneros did not face an honest primary. Neither did Cori Bush, nor Jamaal Bowman.
They faced a party that is openly hostile to progressives, and one that absolutely plays favorites.
What was the turnout in their districts?
For the primaries or for the general? Which voters are you looking to blame?
You said the primaries were unfair in response to my statement that they are often unattended. The average turnout is ~20% for a congressional primary. The overwhelmingly largest demographic are retirees. I’m asking what the turnout was in the specific primaries you deemed unfair.
Because you're unwilling to address the actions of the party and how it protects incumbents only when they are to the right of their challengers.
Great. Thank you for again proving that baseless criticism is all you can provide a conversation.
Look at the voting records since j20.
I have. What vote are you challenging? The CR was not the leverage people say it was. A shutdown would permit Trump to terminate non-essential workers under the lack of funding portion of his emergency executive order. None of the other votes are problematic in that they passed with simple majority and Democrats have minority.
They did, however, take every opportunity to confirm Biden’s pending judge appointments when Republican attendance was low, prompting Johnson’s push for proxy voting. They also mandated a 15-day vote against Trump’s emergency EO, which prompted Republicans to redefine the congressional calendar to avoid holding. They’re also the ones partnering with the ACLU to bring these cases to the courts, and are now flying to El Salvador to press Bukele into compliance.
They did a lot of public performance, for sure. They also voted yes on confirmation hearings and iirc a couple of other things. But establishment Dems are not our friends. Take what you need, leave the rest.
The ones where they all block voted no, the ties were broken by Vance. Like I said, they haven’t tipped a vote that Republicans wouldn’t have won.
I’m not a fan of centrist Democrats, but there are many progressives in Congress now, and they’re doing what they can to stop this. Branding them all as the worst of them is ignorant.
He will just pardon them, there’s no reason not to it not like trump has to face the music.