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All people are equal, but some are more equal than others
More specified, not more equal in this case, really.
Why do they need to be specified? If it's equal rights for all people, then that includes Jews. There is no need to specify if you are promoting equality for all.
Germany (as in the law but also many of the german people) is a bit weird about that, because, you know, it's predescessor tried โ sadly with very much success โ to fucking murder every single European jew. That is a reason why in Germany, we are so specific.
This is also why Germany will stand by Israel, even if their right-wing regime is now murdering people in Gaza. It is fucked up, but the way it is at the moment.
So while you can compare the suffering of the jewish diaspora and the Romani under the Nazi regime, there is no noteworthy Romani national movement as far as I know. So your comment adds nothing of worth to the debate, to be honest.
Thats the same argument as black life matters versus all life matters -> Just in Austria and Germany we have a special responsibility against Antis-Semitism
No, since with "black lives matter" (which I think could have used a better name anyway, like Black Lives Also Matter, which has the nice acronym of BLAM), it isn't the oppressing group.
In the case with Israel and Palestine, Israel is very very much the oppressive group, currently conducting a genocide, a claim backed by multiple researchers and experts in the field.
Not really, BLM was started to highlight issues of racism, discrimination, inequality etc. faced by black people.
I would not have had an issue if the mod had said equal rights for all people, including Jewish people. It's the fact that they say equal rights for all, but "in particular" one specific group that I take issue with, doesn't matter if that group is Jews, Christians, white people, black people, etc.
The issue is that both Zionist lobby groups/political activists and authoritarian politicians and law enforcement (or well police, bc. often things later get thrown out in court) like to misinterpret it, if it is not said specifically. Do you remember how shortly after October 7 2023 Pierce Morgan and similiar did the whole "Do you condemn Hamas?" thing over and over again, no matter how displaced it was to the matter at hand? Well imagine that but with the police enforcing it and you get the state of public discourse in Germany for the past two years.
When it comes to speech about Palestine and Israel the executive in Germany will go on the basis of guilty until proven innocent. This leads to arbitrary and often violent arrests, searches of peoples homes, confiscations of devices... Even if all of that is later thrown out in court or the prosecutors don't even bother to make a charge it has tremendous negative effects for the people targeted.
For instance in Berlin almost no demonstration for the rights of Palestinians go without police violence. Francesca Albanese the UN special rapporteur had multiple events in Germany cancelled or spaces denied last minute because of pressure from the government and reported that she was threatened with arrest. Finally take this example of the radically Zionist Axel-Springer Media specifically targeting activists in Berlin with Names and Pictures. Note how two out of the 6 people they attack are anti-zionist Jews.
There is no rational reasoning with German authorities or Zionist groups in Germany.
Yeah, German policing of the situation has been pretty insane
The meaning is the same. You are splitting hairs over a text written by a non-native speaker.
It's not though, if you're working in a restaurant/bar/shop and your boss tells you to give good service to everyone, especially (or in particular) Americans, then you're being told that it's more important that Americans get good service than other groups, even if you're supposed to provide good service to everyone.
The fact they may be a non-native speaker might mean that they intended "including" rather than "particularly", but it doesn't change the actual meaning of the words that they wrote.
No, if your boss has to tell you that it is a reminder that you should treat everyone equal and despite knowing that you dislike Americans you still need to treat them the same.
Why is it useful to specifically name the rights of jewish poeple in germany and austria?
Not all Nazis left or died after 45. We simply do not act like they did.
e: typo
And a lot were born after 45.
This is a specification so people know what the law in Germany is. Simple as that.
Rather, they wish to prevent the thought that all people indeed are equal, whilst the Jews aren't considered to be humans/humane i.e. people at all to some.
It's really not helpful for everyone to go around and post misunderstood snippets of books that were released before Israel was even founded. Can you elaborate more what you want to say here?
What I said here: https://feddit.uk/post/29329161/17366266
If we want equal rights for all (as we should) then that includes Jewish people, we don't then specify that one group "in particular" gets equal rights. I wouldn't have taken issue with the sentence if it simply said Jewish people included, because "all people" does indeed include Jewish people, but "in particular" is picking them out as special.