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I get that Steam is where everything and everyone is at. And that the user experience and functionality is best there BUT having another player to try an compete with Steam is a good thing, right?

If anyone can try, it's the Fortnite Bank.

So, why the hate?

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[–] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip -4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh so they have no responsibility at all then. Might as well stop checking IDs when people enter casinos or buy alcohol because they’re not supposed to if they’re underaged.

They make a deliberately addictive mechanic that they know ruin peoples' life, and they also know they have a big young audience, but you think that’s fine? Shame of you, really.

It’s also in TF2 btw

And whatever you say, it’s still exploiting adults. In many countries, like France, casinos are legally obliged to detect addicted people, prevent minors from playing, and let people opt out legally, and never allow them to gamble afterwards. Valve blatantly doesn’t respect this and takes efforts to bypass the law. They got banned in Belgium and France, and used a legal loophole to avoid being banned in France.

You’re acting like a Valve fanboy. Be objective. Apart from that, Valve is an overall good company for the video games industry, but they act like a piece of shit in other places.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I mean... Do you support the recent proposal to ban online porn? How about alcohol?

Valve provides a game, an appropriate age rating, a description of the monetization scheme, and a way for users to freely trade items.

If minors transform that into a gambling addiction, it's certainly a big problem, but I don't see how that translates into "Steam bad, Epic Games good"

[–] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip -1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Do you support the recent proposal to ban online porn?

No, but that’s another subject. Not easy to regulate and is not as life threatening as many other things. We all consumed some when minors and it never was a huge deal for most people. Gambling is much worse imo, as it impacts your finance. Gambling is already banned/regulated and Valve is avoiding the current laws.

How about alcohol?

It’s already pretty well restricted for minors. The world would be better without it, but as nicotine, can’t go back now that people are used to it.

but I don't see how that translates into "Steam bad, Epic Games good"

Never said that.

I talked about this because the original comment said Valve wasn’t here for money. Why do they push gambling then?

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Parents should do their damn job and prevent their kids from playing what they arent supposed to, or teach them right from wrong.

[–] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Teens aren’t kids. Gambling is addictive to everyone.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Teens are kids, they've just got half a brain and adult hormones mixed in. They still need guidance and supervision.