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[–] IDew@lemm.ee 100 points 4 days ago (5 children)

My question exactly.. I genuinely don't get it

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 109 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Like many things, it's an irrational decision to start at some point, and then addiction keeps you doing it. I have tried out a few drugs in my teenage/young adult years, including some "hard" ones, which ended up genuinely being one-off curiosity things for me. But the one that I simply wasn't able to kick until last year was nicotine. It really is scarily addictive for something so widespread and legal. (Alcohol was also hard, but easier for me).

That, and the part about "no high" is just not really true, even after you develop a dependency/addiction (with rapidly diminishing returns, of course). But especially when first starting to vape/smoke, there are very much effects beyond placebo. It hooks into a lot of your neurochemistry, and like most things that do, you feel that. To the point that, e.g., many people that consume weed with tobacco, will think the initial wooziness they feel is already due to the weed, when really, it is a tobacco hit. The weed effects generally come afterwards.

Of course, the effect is not at all as intense as alcohol or other drugs, but there are effects. There are also, to my knowledge, some indications, that a lot of people with ADHD use it to self-medicate, since it seems to affect them differently, like other drugs do, too.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago

Of course, the effect is not at all as intense as alcohol or other drugs, but there are effects. There are also, to my knowledge, some indications, that a lot of people with ADHD use it to self-medicate, since it seems to affect them differently, like other drugs do, too.

Sounds plausible; nicotine is a stimulant by means of triggering the release of adrenaline, dopamine, and serotonin. That is pretty much what an ADHD brain lacks.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I've done coke, meth, acid, ecstasy, heavy amounts of opiates and I had been a full on alcoholic for years and I stopped all of those, quite easily as well. Cigarettes are another story tho.

One time I tried quitting cigarettes cold turkey and had a mild heart attack.

I've gotten close before but I just end up back here smoking.

Nicotine is by far the most addictive drug I've ever taken.

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Definitely. I'm sure that the experience is also different for different people, but ~~overall~~ for me, it was really hard to get rid of. I was basically non-functioning for about 2 weeks, when I quit cold turkey last year, and I still get cravings every now and then, and I still don't feel "the same", just, in an overall psychological/bodily way that is hard to convey. Also, the (unwanted) weight gain after I quit was very much an unfortunate reality.

That is probably not the experience everyone has, different physiologies and psychological factors and all that, but I am certainly not the only person I anecdotally heard from, that had an intense struggle with the stuff. And it's also not the first time I heard from other people having gone through other addictions mentioning, that nicotine is the one they struggled with the most, or are still struggling with.

Bottom line: Don't start with nicotine, it really is not worth it. And if you are already caught up in it, and are one of the people that just can't quit - don't feel like you are weak or anything like that. Nicotine really is that addictive.

[–] Amanduh@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

If you get drunk and throw a dip in your head goes spinning like crazy lol

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Nicotine is a stimulant.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

A drunk cigarette is quite nice ngl, usually makes the hangover worse though

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago

the reason is in the post. it's highly addictive. quitting is basically impossible without professional assistance

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Nicotine does have a high, that’s why. It’s subtle and a bit similar to caffeine