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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

Because nothing matters. Never gonna retire. Never gonna own a home. Couldnt afford kids even if i wanted them. Why worry about "being productive" into my fuckin 80s?

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago

You already said it kills you faster then if you didn't smoke.

[–] Googledotcom@lemm.ee 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

There’s something pleasurable about exhaling mist out of your mouth.

plus potential undiagnosed adhd self med maybe? I always could solve any problem if I only had a smoke to think. It’s like some kind of unlocking full potential

It’s been 10 years since my last and I still miss that full potential feeling. I feel like I live with a constant fog on my mind without it

It’s very hard to part ways with the clarity that nicotine gives me. As if teleported to some dimension where everything is easy suddenly and very clear. Time slows down

Fuck maybe it’s worth going back just for that clarity. I never really recovered since quitting

I thought I could overcome it with sheer force of will and my brain will somehow get used to it and work fine without nicotine but that never happened

I miss that kind of focus

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's not worth going back! I'm trying to quit, my advice to you don't think about the high. Think about how expensive it is, how gross it smells, how much time it takes from your day, how much easier it is to breathe. The high is fleeting, the damage to your body is permanent.

[–] Googledotcom@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah I know I know. I even can’t do it like medically I am not supposed to more than usual person.

I need some kind of substance that works like nicotine, is easy to obtain and has less or no health risks

Probably gotta go to psych at last but I procrastinate on that since years

I was thinking recently let’s go and enroll in a course to become air traffic controller but I need nicotine for that. To pass tests and to work

Thing is I can’t even take the nicotine pills technically because I am in thrombosis risk group.

If I was usual medically person I would just take nicotine pills and deem the eventual risks completely worth having actual ability to focus and work. Without nicotine my career life is depressing if it even exists

I underestimated how this vile habit helped me pass to the top university but to be honest when I was studying I smoked like a lot, more than I ate and started to feel so fucking terrible that I switched education to something easier that I already knew how to do

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago

Tried in high school. I wanted to be able to smoke even if i didnt have or couldnt smoke weed. Thankfully a couple days in cigarettes made me vomit and I stopped without looking back. Wish I had been able to do that the first time alcohol made me vomit.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Smoking a cigarette feels like you’ve been standing your entire life and you just sat down. Then it feels like nothing and the world hurts when you don’t have it

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is actually a very good description of how a shot of heroin feels, when you have a habit. It's just much moreso than cigarettes.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

Awww man I was really looking forward to heroin in my later years.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

I haven't smoked in 15 years, and I could start again tomorrow. I love smoking and still miss it.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

I quit smoking cold turkey almost 10 years ago. I promised myself I can start smoking again when The Fall happens.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Well done, I know that feeling even though I'm only on my 2nd year without cigarettes after smoking for 30 years.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

4 years free myself!

[–] FGoo@sh.itjust.works 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Thats a good streak, dude. Keep going :)

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yah, remembering the feeling of being knifed in the chest still keeps me from going back.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

Have you tried smoking cigarettes instead of knives?

[–] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Besides the chemical addiction part, it's also a genuinely social one as well.

Smoking areas are designated places where strangers talk to each other. Asking for a light or offering one is a super simple way to break the ice. My dad quit cold turkey several times but he always fell back into the habit hanging with his friends

[–] askat@programming.dev 16 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, my coworkers take smoke breaks together and I genuinely think I missing some important socialization because I don't smoke

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

Take a cup of coffee or tea and go with them. There are multiple modern addictions that you can choose from.

[–] DonnaFerentes@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Take a sparkler to hold, so you can ask for a light

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago

And be around people smoking? Disgusting

[–] askat@programming.dev 4 points 18 hours ago

That's actually very good advice

[–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 9 points 19 hours ago

I never understood this argument.

Colleague goes for a smoke break? I go with them, just don't smoke.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

When I smoked, we had people that would just come and hang out for the break and the conversation. Go for it, it's fine. Just don't complain about smoking or you won't be welcome, predictably enough.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 hours ago

One of my colleagues will even occasionally ask me "Heading for a smoke, wanna come along?" I just love chatting with him, I'll try to stand upwind so I don't catch as much second-hand smoke, he gets some company too, everyone's happy.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 8 points 21 hours ago

This is what I used to do, the smoking area outside was a nice little shaded area, i just generally stood upwind of the smokers or slightly askew to avoid the 2nd hand smoke. No one gave me shit, I was just asked occasionally if i smoked.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Smoking is also an activity that some workplaces allow you to use to justify extra breaks.

For example, it's easier for one of my coworkers to go outside and have a smoke break without judgement than it is for me to go sit in the break room for 5-10 minutes and eat a snack if I'm tired.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 7 points 18 hours ago

I've worked at a cleaning job where the smokers were allowed to go outside whenever. Some even went on a smoke break several times per hour. The nonsmokers like me on the other hand were reprimanded if we sat down and drank something outside of the scheduled break. I complained, but the boss was a smoker and just told me they need their smoke break but I don't need coffee.... One coworker whom I talked to about that even said they started smoking because of this and because the non-smokers were expected to work more and cover for the smokers on their cigarette breaks.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My grandfather picked up smoking in WWII because non-smoke4s didn't get any breaks from digging trenches.

It took over 50 years, but WWII still managed to kill him.

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[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 22 hours ago

I had a job where breaks were working breaks unless you were a smoker. That's when I went from only smoking socially to being a regular smoker.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Because it's a drug that makes you feel good?

Also: I am now convinced that a sizable portion of the Population is neurodivergent in a way that Nicotine does A LOT more for them than "a slight calming effect".

[–] damdy@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

ADHD and cigarettes pair so nicely. 3 mins of turning off the world every hour is why I'm not sure I'll ever be able to quit. Being a single unit item is why things like vaping never worked for me either. I had a small amount of luck with cans of fizzy drinks, but I'd need an insane amount and 2 weeks off work with none of my usual triggers for a chance.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

Because it’s a drug that makes you feel good?

More specifically, its a stimulant that makes your brain more active and helps you cut through your exhaustion. Like caffeine, its a "work drug" designed to crank more units of labor out of you in a limited time span, at the expense of your overall health and well-being.

That's why capitalist countries have been so loathe to outlaw it, when compared to the creative/transgressive stimulants like LSD and THC.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

TL;DR: Show me someone with any hard-to-quit habit, and I'll show you someone that's self-medicating for something.

This is tragically under-appreciated in our society. Especially when it seems everyone is converging on some kind of self-diagnosis, and collectively coming to a "hey nobody's normal" conclusion. We're so very close to framing help as "harm reduction for nicotine" and "maybe it's also neurodiversity and/or trauma", but we keep missing the mark and argue about vapes instead.

Also, as the greentext suggests, I personally think we're way past the point where people that can avoid starting or can quit easy, have already done so. What you see these days is a rather hard-core use cohort that has complex addiction to work through.

So.. yeah. Helping a friend quit? Please work with them to consider the jenga-tower of adverse psychology that a-pack-a-day might be holding up. It could be way harder to pull off than either of you think.

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