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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey here comes the comfortable westerner to tell everyone what they think is bad optics.

This genocide could never happen without the Biden and Trumps full support. Hand-wrining about "terrorism" only serves defending the perpetrators while posing like you care about victims.

Sickening behavior really, but I'm used to it by now. American soldiers are terrorists, IDF are terrorists.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This genocide could never happen without the Biden and Trumps full support

I mean... No. This has been happening for 80+ fucking years and Israel would be doing it with or without US support.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

But at least we got to be complicit like republicans and centrist democrats want.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They would certainly be trying, but it's a lot harder to exterminate a captive population when you aren't getting supplied a whole arsenal to do so.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They would certainly be trying, but it’s a lot harder to exterminate a captive population when you aren’t getting supplied a whole arsenal to do so.

Yes, I'm sure that captive populations aren't regularly exterminated without the backing of major MICs.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

can you elaborate? you have a double negative in there and it's hard for me to tell what you're trying to say. is this your attempt at sarcasm?

my position is that it's harder to do a genocide if you're not being given unlimited weapons and political and military support from the world hegemon. do you disagree?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ok... So a bit different than "it could never happen"

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This genocide could never happen without the American uniparty shitheads enabling it for decades.

Ok… So a bit different than “it would never happen”

I said:

This genocide could never happen without the Biden and Trumps full support

Without their support it would be a different one, maybe get better at reading or something

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Without their support it would be a different one, maybe get better at reading or something

Without US support, Israel would be genociding... who, exactly? What 'different' genocide would it be, if not the genocide that's been going on since 1948, long before US aid was a major factor?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

late to the party pugjesus

it would be different because the conditions would be different, they would be needing to buy their own thousand pound bombs, protect their own shipping lanes and collect their own intelligence.

with US support every step of the way they are able to ignore pressure from the rest of the world and have been absolutely depraved as a result

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not about bad optics, you are literally doing what Israel is doing by equating Gaza civilians as "combatants" and thus making them targets. These people had nothing to do with Oct 7 I'm talking about little children and doctors and mothers and teachers and you're on about this fucking freedom fighter uprising bullshit because you're more concerned with justifying violence against Israel than caring about how many kids get bombed and starve to death in Gaza.

Fuck that bullshit.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You are the one making excuses for the occupation by calling their victims terrorists. A ghetto uprising describes the conditions accurately. You are the one doing the work of Israel by pretending that they have ever discriminated between 'combatants' and everyone else.

I guess feigning moral superiority must be how you sleep at night after a long day of jorkin it to Ukraine war killcams or whatever it is you weirdos do for fun.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I see, we are on 2 different topics here.

Have fun justifying Oct 7. I'll pass on that bullshit.

I'm talking about the genocide in Gaza today, where 50,000 who had nothing to do with Oct 7 or any sort of "uprising" whatsoever have been killed.