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We could have just voted for Harris last year and things would be pretty good right now.
Good? No. People would still be struggling financially and deeply unhappy. Better than now? God yes
Imo. this is actually better in the long run.
People are waking up to the reality of the US deeply rooted problems. People are starting to challenge the oligarchy.
Under Harris we would have had four more years of "centrists" gaslighting progressives for wanting a livable minimum standard of life and Trumpism would have swung back even harder after.
Trump is a syptom of the system that the Republicand and Democrats maintain to exploit the people for the oligarchy.
There will be no political solution until the people take back at least one party from the oligarchy. And even now Democrat party elites are fighting tooth and nails to prevent that, instead siding with Trump over various issues.
Before the election I would have criticized this as accelerationism.
Now I just hope the accelerationists were right all along.
They don’t have candidates or a party in position to take over so I wouldn’t hold my breath here.
Yes because she was going to defund ICE right? RIGHT?
That’s not the gotcha you think it is.
She might not have been perfect but she’d be a lot better than what we have.
Not "a lot" just enough so that useful fools can normalize the bad.
The exact same circumstances that triggered the current LA protests, to use a dated phrase, of ICE putting kids in cages would still been occuring. Sure ICE would probably still be operating primarily in secret as opposed to the current smash and grab and the national guard probably wouldn't have been called in (debatable if that's just because there wouldnt have been the same level of resistance.)
I understand the legal, political and messaging differences there, but I'm not seeing any material differences between the two scenarios.
It you don’t see the difference I don’t know what to tell you.
You said the same thing about voting for Biden in 2020.
He got us out of a pretty dire situation into a decent one but some people couldn’t see that.
I’d still rather him as president right now over what we have now.
Sounds like he didn't get you out of that situation then.
The American voters got us back into it.
With an assist from the ones who voted third party or not at all.