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[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I'll give you my uneducated findings: self driving cars are not ready.

I doubt they will ever be really ready, they'll eventually be considered "ready enough" no software will always work without flaws. When that software controls a car a minor flaw might mean 20 deaths.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

40.000 deaths by traffic accident by year (in the US). Only 20 deaths would be a major improvement. Obviously "cars" is a highly irrational discussion though.

And it's not just the victims who could be spared their lives, it's also the mental toll on those who kill people on accident. Blaming it on a flaw in the software that can be improved and flaws permanently fixed is great.

I say let the mechanized reduced slaughter begin!

[–] MBech 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't Waymo in San Francisco completely self driving? And if their own recently released data is anything to go by, it would seem self driving cars are more ready than manually controlled cars. Because people are absolutely awful at driving.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Waymo cars use much better technology than Tesla.

Nobody is disputing that a machine that is never distracted and has reaction times down to fractions of a second would make a better driver than even the most skilled human, but Tesla's FSD hardware and software aren't there yet and probably never will be.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Way is also operating in a fairly small fixed area that is highly mapped.

Not saying that's a bad thing, they are doing things the right way, slowly and cautiously.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

Not unless government adjust infrastructure to accomodate. Like, QR codes on every sign giving each car passing specific instructions or whatever.