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Russian Negotiations 101. My first offer? You surrender everything, submit to enslavement, and completely disarm. Final offer. What's the point of talking to these nihilist barbarians? (kyivindependent.com)
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[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

Win or lose, they're fucked for the next decades at least.

Who are 'they'? If you talk about people who decide to continue the war - not necessarily: the power and elite are cementing and the probability of toppling Putin is decreasing rapidly with each year of militarization.

If you talk about common people, then I agree, for regular russians that's a disaster, for a tiny minority - the last opportunity to get rich.

If you equate these categories, you are a delulu