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[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Ukraine also has to tell everyone that 3.5 inches is a totally normal penis size and actually is quite big.

Over a million Russian soldiers are dead over this bullshit, their economy is likely bankrupt, and they still act like spoiled children. Wtf.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well, the people that make these decisions on Russian side aren't in any danger from the war. That's the main issue here.

Yup. Putin doesn’t give a fuck about the average person in Russia. He’s happy sending them all to die so he can fulfill some weird emperor fantasy.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today -4 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Over a million Russian soldiers are dead

Questionable. According to Ukrainian posters which should be taken with a grain of salt.

Also, COVID killed about a million russians, 2 millions die yearly. So having 1 additional million people dead in 3 years is not a big toll. That's probably the logic of the Russian government - those who really decide whether to continue the war or not

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sigh. 300,000 dead Russian soldiers have been named by independent media. A million dead is realistic. The number of casualties is in the millions. What number of 100,000s people dead passes the threshold for you?

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

https://200.zona.media/

11200 as-of now. Based on your estimate of real casualties= 3x identified casualties it's more likely to be 300-400 thousand which is already a devastating number way beyond the threshold you have mentioned.

It's just weird to remind that if a side, any side claims that it has 50 thousand casualties and the enemy is beyond one million, you are being fed with horseshit and you need to just stop eating it.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

You entirely missed the point of my comment in order to state some pendantic bullshit. Here's a report stating 250k dead and 1 million casualties (https://www.newsweek.com/russia-casualties-ukraine-one-million-2083882). Now, fuck off troll.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 7 minutes ago

Sigh. 300,000 dead Russian soldiers have been named by independent media. A million dead is realistic. The number of casualties is in the millions. What number of 100,000s people dead passes the threshold for you?

Independent media like Zona named 112k, while, well, CSIS estimated 250k, which is well lesser than one million.

You too please have a good day and don't forget to drink enough water

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The problem here isn't really with the source but how it is read. It doesn't say "killed" but rather "approximate enemy losses" (орієнтовні втрати противника), which would also include the injured.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Covid did not kill 1 million work capable men. This war did. On top of Covid. Russia already has shitty demographics before this war and you can't on top of that have covid and then lose over a million men from your work force without feeling that. Put on top of that all the sanctions it has had, the cost of this war and the cost of restoring it's military after the beating it has had...

Then if they win they'll get a razed down country that requires enormous investments in infrastructure but also defense and heavy handed policing. All that requires enormous investments Russia doesn't have.

If they lose they'll be made responsible for the recovery of Ukraine wgich, last time I checked, is estimated to be well into half a trillion dollars.

Win or lose, they're fucked for the next decades at least.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago

Win or lose, they're fucked for the next decades at least.

Who are 'they'? If you talk about people who decide to continue the war - not necessarily: the power and elite are cementing and the probability of toppling Putin is decreasing rapidly with each year of militarization.

If you talk about common people, then I agree, for regular russians that's a disaster, for a tiny minority - the last opportunity to get rich.

If you equate these categories, you are a delulu

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

There’s no need to negotiate. Trump will end the war on day one. Wait… /s

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I like how he couldn't do shit and even claimed it's probably best to leave negotiations to the EU. Fucking TACO bullshit as always.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

Don't worry. Time is meaningless after covid. We're on year 3 of this 3 day special military operation that totally isn't a war.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't think I would be alive to see anti-Israel post here

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml -5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You must be thinking of the genocide, this is the proxy war

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

this is the proxy war

IDK, really. True that NATO doesn't want direct involvement and wants Ukraine to kick Putin's ass. But it begs the question: is Russia a proxy for China or we just force the interpretation of the proxy war onto reality?

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It was a throwaway quip but Wikipedia says:

a proxy war is an armed conflict where at least one of the belligerents is directed or supported by an external third-party power

So the Ukraine war fits squarely in that definition. Other examples I found cited online were Korea, Vietnam, and the Soviets in Afghanistan - all of which have a major power as one of the direct belligerents

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

Yup, looks like it fits the definition without a stretch

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 11 points 16 hours ago

Well, no. It was supposed to be the start of Putin putting the USSR back together but those gloriously pesky Ukrainians keep kicking the shit out of that shithole.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 5 points 19 hours ago

it's only for their amusement....fuck russia