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After more than 32,000 speeding tickets were handed out in just three weeks by new automated speed enforcement cameras in community safety zones, council in the City of Vaughan decided to pause the program.

Mayor Steven Del Duca put forward the motion last week to pause the tickets until September, when council is due to receive a report from staff on ways the city can create more effective signage about the presence of cameras.

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't get cameras except as a way to get fines money. If you wanted to actually slow traffic, you'd spend that infrastructure money on calming measures that work immediately and constantly. Cameras take effect weeks after the offence (in a small number of people) and only serves to make people watch for cameras instead of the traffic around them. Cameras have a very small area of effect and only for people that see them or know where they are.

If the point is just to punish speeders, make money, and not fix the problem, then by all means, install a few cameras.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The cost of a couple of cameras is significantly less investment and significantly less disruption than the needed infrastructure changes. We are talking 10s of thousands to operate the cameras versus millions to rehabilitate just 1 road. We need to fight for roads to be upgraded to safer standards when they are due for repaving.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Speed bumps and chicanes aren't millions of dollars. In older neighborhoods with straight streets, block off straight shots and make people drive around to get through; that prevents shortcutting. Bollards and rubber speedbumps are hundreds of dollars.

I'm cynical; I think municipalities depend on photo radar for revenue and aren't actually going to do what it takes to slow people down when they could get money instead. And if I were really cynical, I'd say the camera companies put them in on percentage, but I can't confirm that.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All I know know is that I only needed to get one speeding ticket for me to never speed again.

And that was in a speed trap, not because I wanted to be an ass on the road. An 80km/h country road suddenly turned to 50km/h without a warning, and I was already slowing down...

That was over 20 years ago, but I digress.

If people are constantly getting tickets, they should have mandatory driving school and a retest. But still ticket them so their habit can pay for better infrastructure in the meantime 🤑

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IDK where you live, but where I am you get demerits and after a certain number you get a suspension and need to take a course to get your license back. But cameras don't count to demerits, so if you have enough money, speed away. Taking that money for cameras and putting cops on the ground handing out demeritable tickets would accomplish something; cameras do not.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I'd love to see enforcement that leads to demerit points. But you need a revenue stream to pay for officers on the ground, and nobody wants to pay more in taxes to compensate.

Either we use the revenue to fund traffic cops, or we set fines high enough (but proportional to income or net worth) in order for it to be self-sufficient.

We're far too lenient on drivers that can't drive safely.