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[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everybody should have a minimum income that they can comfortably live from in every country, period.

In CH are all the restaurants etc. expensive due to the wages being higher? Or is it mainly due to extra food costs?

What if we don't increase the minimum wage, but increase the minimum income? Aka give people extra money if they work for minimum wage in certain area's like restaurants. Just a theory. (In NL we have had situation where the company would get extra money to compensate the higher wage cost, mostly the NOW during Covid)

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Switzerland does import a lot of its food, so expensive food is definitely part of the cost in restaurants. I don't know what the mix between food costs and labour is. But, high labour costs are part of the expense.

I'm not sure what you're talking about with your minimum income. Are you saying that certain jobs deserve a higher minimum than other jobs? Which jobs are ones where the minimum wage is allowed to be lower? If restaurant minimum wage/income is higher, does that mean that say delivery drivers are paid less?

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Minimum income aka, everybody will have their income at a max of say 3k a month. If you work for a boss and you earn 1k there than you get 2k from the government. If you earn 4k you get nothing from the government f.e.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why not just get 3k a month from the boss? Why should the government subsidize your income so that your boss can pay you less?

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We already subsidize companies, but that doesn't always end up in the hand of the employees.

Look, we have to accept that not every company can be profit driven and sustain itself. That can be an issue with wage costs or with other costs. Things like theatres often get money from the government to fill the gap. Companies with old historic buildings often get money from the government to keep those buildings in check. Startups also get helped by the NL government in the form of tax cuts etc.

UBI would also help with edge cases. Or people who cannot work etc. Yes there are also issues with this.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

We already subsidize companies, but that doesn't always end up in the hand of the employees.

Some companies, sometimes. Sure.

Look, we have to accept that not every company can be profit driven and sustain itself.

Then they should be allowed to fail. If it's an essential service it should be a government department not a company.

UBI is a good idea, but that's entirely different.