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Oh for fucks sake, if they have $100,000+ that's $8,333 per month, and they can't handle paying $900 per month?
Cry me a river will you?
Not arguing with anything but your numbers. Gross pay is not net pay. My net is 60% of my gross with family health insurance taken out , and taxes (but mostly health insurance).
So that could be closer to 5k a month, let's say 6 to be generous. Rent here for anything that will fit a family is close to 3k. Another thousand on top for student loans, then electric bill, car insurance or transit $, more people means more food, I can see it might be tight.
Still not anything to really complain about money wise but legit IMO to complain about student loans in general. Education from K through university or trade school needs to be free for students, the economy would work better.
Also, with the price hikes and everything recently, The cost of living has gone up while their salaries haven't. What's happened is people who haven't had to budget before now are now needing to budget. Yeah, they still make enough that they can live quite comfortably it's not like they're going to starve, But they can't just buy that new car every year anymore.
Just because they make more income than you doesn't mean they don't also struggle. Their expenses are different from yours. Also these student loans are predatory. They have terms where you can pay for years and end up owing more than you originally took out
"Different" meaning "need to make payments on cars and properties that a poor person can only dream of having"? Look, I get that rich and poor all struggle... but can we not pretend that the struggles are equal?
It's not a contest over who is struggling more. Why are you against someone who is also struggling that makes no sense
I'm not necessarily against anyone, but forgive me for not having much pity for the financial struggles of a class of people that can't manage to be happy with incomes that more than double what I've had to make myself content with my entire life.
Are we going to be saying that the struggles of billionaires actually matter next?
I take a different line entirely. If you have $100k household income, and that's still not enough cover expenses for a family of four, then something is very wrong. By income distribution, 80% of the population makes $100k or less, and it's completely untenable for them.
As of 4th quarter 2024, average cost of living for a single person in the US is $4,948/month. Take that $8,333/month, chop off 20% for taxes, and you're already getting uncomfortably close to that number. For a family of four, I really don't see how those numbers work at all.
Average because 1% own half the wealth, average has nothing to do with normal people. You need median. Many people don't even make 5k per month before taxes.
Those figures won't be that far apart. It will somewhat, because higher incomes will have a bigger house and more luxurious car. However, they're putting more of their money into investments, not cost of living.
And I'll reiterate, that's the average for one person, not a family.
With 1% owning half the wealth, you are claiming average and median aren't far apart?!
I'm having trouble finding a reference to median US living expenses, but you can cut the above number in half if you like. Multiplying it for a family of four won't necessarily be 4x, but it'll be more than 2x.