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no socialist scholar ever said socialism is when the government gives people healthcare, this just happens to be something socialists want, but it in and of itself is not socialism, and not everything socialists want is socialism. Socialism is when the workers own the means of production, nothing else.
these also are examples that have nothing to do with anything any socialist philosopher ever said. You have listened to capitalist propaganda that says socialism is all these things, try listening to marx or bakunin or kropotkin or any other major socialist thinker as to the definition of socialism.
also still capitalist.
this is a strawman because you don't even know what leftists believe, you have obviously not read the works of many if you don't even know the definition of socialism... but for some reason you boldly assume you do because you read it on the news or perhaps got this information from a middleschool teacher.
i can see how that would be if your strawman were true.
If you wish to debunk all of my claims name any major socialist thinker who agrees with your definition. Not social democrat, socialist.