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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Did those politicians say "vote blue no matter who" or was that people online in an effort to avoid gestures broadly?

Genuine question, they've always been massive disappointments who would benefit from that.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I specifically said "vote blue no matter who", because while yes, there are Establishment Democrats that exist, Extermination Republicans are quite objectively fucking worse.

Because if Fascist 47 wasn't in office, we could at least try to get shit done, instead of putting out 17+ daily fires.

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Rebrand: Vote Blue, because what else can you do?

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A lot actually but that would require people to get politically educated and we all know how well that has worked out.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vote blue it’s the least you can do?

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lol, no. Miss me with that "blue MAGA" talk

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And leave the house

[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I mean it might work with Luigi pic in the background. But we all know that won't happen.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So what were we doing for the last 50 years?

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fascist 47 hasn't been the president that long, and anyone with a brain knew he would tear this country down.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

How was he able to do that? How does he have so much more power than democratic presidents? Genuine question bc all my brain says is that the dem potus' don't want change. 45/47 was able to really rock the boat the wrong way, why couldn't 46 make this much change in the other direction? 44?...

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

Because after Trump's first term, including the failed coup, when nothing happened to them, the republicans came to a startling realization: no matter what they do there are no consequences, because the democrats refuse to enforce any.

For decades they've worked to be either technically within the law, or carefully over the line in ways that are both deniable and difficult to prosecute. But during Trump's first term, it became apparent they don't need to do that anymore. They can do whatever the fuck they want and no one will impose any consequences. Even if someone stops them in the moment, they just get to try again.

And it's all because democrats are too concerned with decorum and looking polite.

So why can't democrats do the same? Cause you bet your britches the republicans will hold them to account if they start doing whatever they want. Republicans would love that. They would be thrilled to lock up most of the democrats. But given the opportunity and very real justification for doing so, the democrats just...didn't do it to the republicans.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How was he able to do that? How does he have so much more power than democratic presidents?

Dems and the Dem base run on the idea of an actual government with laws and standards. Dems sometimes violate those laws, but with plausible deniability in the vein of lawyers.

The GOP and the GOP base runs on the idea that hurting people is the highest good, and that laws are just a means to an end. They used to have more of the "lawyerly plausible deniability" strain about them, but Trump and his ghoulish following have dispensed with that, as they're convinced that laws are a secret liberal plot to stop America from becoming a White Man's Country once again.

Basically, the GOP doesn't give a fuck about all the rules the Dems follow, and the GOP base won't electorally punish them for it, because the GOP base is made of fascists.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

One side is trying to govern, the other side is trying to win...

Democratic voters usually punish politicians that violate laws and rule of law (see: Mayo Adams of NYC popularity dropping after his indictment), while republican voters don't care about criminal activities, not even after 34 convictions with strong evidence.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 day ago

Three things.

  1. Trump is doing a lot of things that are technically within his powers as long as there is an emergency. Trump is declaring everything an emergency.

  2. A lot of what Trump is doing is trying to tear down parts if the executive branch. The only real recourse to that is an active Congress, but the House and Senate are governed by his party and can choose not to act while the President tears down everything.

  3. A lot of what Trump is trying to do is unconstitutional, but he's got a neutered Supreme Court and would probably quote President Jackson if the Court consistently ruled against Trump.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Because half the shit he's doing is illegal and 46 would not break the law so fragrantly and repeatedly, and when shot down he listened to the courts.

Republicans have control of every branch.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Well for starters we haven't had a Democrat senate supermajority without caucus since 1979, we haven't even given them 50 since 2012-2013, and now everything is going to shit, so...

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democrats need to grow a spine and abolish filibuster. republicans already removed the filibuster for SCOTUS nominations, might as well go all the way so maybe we have a chance of fixing things.

fascists can just ignore the parliamentarian anyways.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm gonna repeat this again.

Have not had more than 50 in over a decade. Why would you allow the simple majority rule when you're literally outnumbered?

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can't possibly be equating the current situations with anything in the past

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The present doesn't exist without the past. Our current situation is just as much about the Dems failure to significantly alter the course of our country as it is the GOPs efforts to undermine democracy. One does not follow without the other.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Not specifically, no. Though in 2020 and ‘24 they were definitely on about party unity

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

Anyone who has ever used that phrase un-ironically is politically tone deaf, or a Republican agent. I get the sentiment, and even agree with it, but it doesn't communicate what people who use it think it does. The kind of people who use that phrase are the ones I blame most for gestures broadly.