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[–] Nangijala 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Usually, people don't get behind the wheel with the intent to kill. We can always discuss the ramifications of drunk driving, speeding and other reckless behaviors that some drivers exhibit when they put the lives of others in danger. It is a discussion that is worth having and it is very important.

However, you cannot tell me that carrying a gun around and waving it in someone's face is anything other than an attempt to threaten a life. Guns were built explicitly to kill. That is their only purpose. That is why people mostly focus on gun violence. There is intent behind the deaths of every person involved in a shooting while with car crashes, it is rarely the driver's intent to murder anybody.

It doesn't mean that car crashes don't matter and don't deserve attention, but you comparing the two as if they are the same is frankly ignorant and smells of gun apologist.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're not the same. This is privilege speaking, I know, but gun violence mostly occurs between people who know each other. I'm not in those circles or neighborhoods, so only the occasional mass shooting might affect me.

But cars? They're omnipresent. There's a steady stream of them in front of my home, so I can't avoid the danger. My life is threatened by cars every damn day, and my quality of life degraded by them. And you can't tell me that driving a car around a city is anything but sociopathic disregard for the well-being of others, because that's what it amounts to.

Cars as bad as guns? No, they're worse.

[–] Nangijala 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I do not understand your mindset, but I very much do hope you will never know what it is like to be trapped in a mass shooting.

You are definitely speaking form a position of privilege.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don't understand what fear is like?

[–] Nangijala 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Claiming that people driving cars are sociopathic is a bizarre claim. Claiming that cars are worse than the concept of a mass shooting is insane. I reiterate: I hope you never find yourself in a mass shooting. Seeing a car drive by on the road cannot make you remotely as scared as being trapped in a building, knowing someone is shooting, but not knowing where they are, how many there are nor how close they are to getting you or your loved ones.

You cannot compare driving cars in a city to that. That is insane.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Getting trapped in a building with a mass shooter is something very, very unlikely. On the other hand, I face the danger of death by automobile at least twice a day, on my ride to work, and my ride home. More, if I go other places. It may seem not that bad because it's so normalized. Dying in or under the wheels of a car is something that happens to people every single day, and it barely rates a mention in the local news. Sometimes the victim doesn't get even get a name. By contrast, the stochastic nature of mass shootings makes them scary, like plane crashes or terrorist attacks, the natural order of things is upended. Death is death, though, and I wouldn't be less dead if it were a texting driver rather than a gunman.

And the texting driver is a whole hell a of a lot more likely. So, yes, it's entirely logical that I'm afraid of that. Not being able to understand and denying that fear is exactly the kind of car-induced sociopathy that I'm talking about.

Throwing insults is not a discussion, by the way.

[–] Nangijala 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Throwing insults is not a discussion, by the way.

denying that fear is exactly the kind of car-induced sociopathy that I’m talking about.

Lol.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Putting the shoe on and loudly announcing that it fits?

[–] Nangijala 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, I think you are. Good that you see it yourself.