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I agree with this, but I still feel there are too many people. Like we don't need 8.5 billion. We could use so much less stuff if we just stopped fucking so much. We could REDUCE the size of our grid significantly. That seems like a good goal.
Btw genocide is a dumb way to achieve this. Plenty easy to just let people live to death since you can provide for 3x the number of people.
Edit: I thought I made it clear with the above line, but I'm not suggesting fucking eugenics. How do you get that from what I said..? I literally specified the fucking opposite. Unless people view any form of population controls in any sense to be eugenics. Which is just fucking braindead.
It’s got most of the same issues as eugenics - yeah, it’d be nice if nobody had to suffer obvious and objective genetic diseases but it consistently immediately turns into “well but I think being a red head is a genetic disease”. You have to consider how a solution can be achieved to really weigh its benefit versus alternatives.
We can feed everybody by Luigi-ing a rounding error’s worth of billionaires. Or we can reduce global population by a factor of 10, which is almost certainly going to disproportionately favor rich white dudes, do nothing to that handful of sociopaths, and they’ll still burn the planet to the ground.
Ok but I never said anything about eugenics or a specific peoples. I said "we should have less people." And everyone got upset assuming I want to genocide the undesirables.
I literally just don't think we need 8 billion people. In no way did I suggest that we do it in a specific way or targeting specific people. Just a general 25-40% reduction in population over a few generations.
Literally all that needs to happen is more birth control for everyone. Not forced.
Idk why everyone gets so incensed by this.
The issue is people have gone down this line of thinking dozens of times and it always ends the same way. Your inability to see that is how we get there.
Population is dropping in developed countries. Nothing needs to be done but let nature take its course. That's not anyone deciding anything.
“Raise the standard of living for everyone and population will level out” is a perfectly reasonable angle. Just say that, because it’s dangerous to leave open ended.
The OP specifically said "just stop fucking so much"
No one said or even implied eugenics.
Go back to reddit please
You imagined a scenario that no one stated then throw insults when called out on your nonsense.
I mean I understand that people are racist pieces of shit and will attempt to hijack absolutely anything that exists to pervert it into a mechanism of hate. But like.... We can could at least try to better the world.
I think that not having such a massive population devouring the ecosystem would be beneficial in the long term. That can be affected in a multitude of ways but mostly by getting the people alive right now to manage their consumption. Once the "line go down" from that, the generations long dastardly project of ...checks notes...educating people and providing them with medical care as needed, the population will in all probably go down as a matter of course.