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Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 364 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Just to fast-forward this dumb cat-and-mouse thing, the next step is people go back to torrenting their porn and deeper down the rabbit hole of garbage "free" websites skirting the rules.

As always, the UK is useful on the international stage because sometimes you need to be able to point at some idiot trying dumb stuff to explain to people why dumb stuff is dumb.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 111 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It does feel that way. UK bureaucracy is just one giant guinea pig stunting it's own commonwealth.

Next someone will try enforcing paper umbrellas as a solution for climate action. We'll all say, "That won't work". They'll still do it; it won't work. We'll say, "We told you so", and it won't get reversed because they're already aiming at the next foot to shoot.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago

There has to be a logical next step for the information age. Old school government is not fucking working, and we can all see it.

The fact that there aren't large scale riots already is astounding.

[–] Bubbey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

UK Bureaucracy is just one giant guinea pig

He tries his best...

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 63 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

100% Brexit quickly shut up similar movements when people saw how badly it went

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now if only Trumpism would have shut down extremist right wing idiology globally.

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trumpism is still in progress, maybe...

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It should have died when he tried to coup the US government after he lost the 2020 election.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Alberta seems to have missed that memo.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Damn Alberta; always trying to leave the EU.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I’m uninformed. What’s the reason for the porn ID thing? Is it just porn or more?

[–] lath@piefed.social 52 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Surveillance due to paranoia due to all the shady shit they're doing.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Neoliberal political class implementing fascist surveillance capitalism laws — masquerading as child protection — because they are owned by a fascist oligarchy.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago

It's never about the children, it's an excuse for surveillance capitalism.

[–] dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Christian evangelists at the root of it all. 'nuff said.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago

Must protect the children

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

You know the old saying... The politicians don't want children to be able to recognize a cunt.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

If data is collected that can be used for blackmail, it will eventially be used for that purpose.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

It's probably true that a few anti-porn people exist somewhere in the world. It's certainly true that fascists love adding in new tools to keep the general population from using the internet freely.

So the answer to your question is yes, and yes.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Then, we move to the socks proxy, or tor, or other options I haven’t even considered yet.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I am pretty sure they would consider tor as using a VPN.

Probably they would demand ISPs to run lists of known VPN addresses and if you connect to them, they will forward the information to the anti-terrorism unit and you will get SWATed.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If Russia, China, and Iran cannot stop tor usage, there's no way the UK can do it.

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

I believe China can stop any kind of access at any time, they just choose to allow a certain percentage of folks to get through above a certain bar of sophistication and need.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Don't the people in those countries use a proxy to access tor first? probably that means cycling through the proxies regularly as they become known. I have no doubt that it is impossible to prevent truly tech savvy people from access. Also Russia, Iran and China all run state sanctioned hackers, so the governments have a vested interest in allowing these groups to obscure where they are coming from.

But i am not sure how much that transpires to a broader public.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago

That's what things like snowflake and bridges are for. Because, at least with snowflake, it just looks like a webRTC phone call. But it's actually tor traffic. And snowflake proxies are ephemeral, since you can just run them in your browser and help anyone connect.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Their next strategy will be to keep a list of websites that are “government approved”, I'm afraid. Long live the Great UK Firewall!!

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago