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This is why the Democratic party stinks. Just cynical assholes only loyal to power.
You think Gavan Newsom is different?
Nope, Newsom vetoes progressive voter referendums all the time in deference to established power and corporations. Just look at what happens in Cali when power companies are at fault for massive wildfires due to negligent equipment/line upkeep…
The state has the 4th largest economy in the world, and yet simultaneously has incredible wealth disparity, a crisis of unhoused people and untreated mental health issues with no affordable/free housing in sight, and crumbling roads/infrastructure everywhere. It is not well run.
So yeah, Newsom wouldn’t be my first pick based on substance. But on style, yes, he’s fighting fire with fire. Hell, he’s simply just doing something to fight, and myself and many others love to see it. More of this from all Dems please, especially those who aren’t full on corporate shills. AOC - now is your time to step up, let’s go!
Im glad somebody is fighting trump, but good lord i do not want California to become the blueprint for America. Driving along the PCH from avocado farms in Oxnard to Malibu and seeing the sick fucking filth that is the California wealthy right next to the migrant workers they exploit is in my top 5 "most disturbing things ive ever experienced." That is taking into account that I used to work on strategic bombers and I know in gruesome detail what a 2000 lb bomb does to a human body. Newsom is a bitter poison pill whose voting record shows that he basically agrees with Trump across the board, and his imitation of trump is barely even ironic. He's always imitated trump in terms of policy.
I traveled to Thailand once for a work related meeting in the oughts.
I stayed in a pretty nice hotel that they booked for me. Nicer than anything I'd have paid for with my own money, or probably ever have.
From the window of my room I could see that at the edge of the parking lot for the hotel was the tallish wall I'd seen, and then (if memory serves) there wasn't even a single row of transition. It was straight to shanties with roofs that looked put together with scrap, etc etc etc.
Maybe it wasn't quite District 9 / Elysium over there, but the contrast was like that.
I came away from that moment looking out the window with some very similar feelings. (Then of course shrugged it off and went about doing what I had to do in fear of having to live like that myself...)
Well said.
Just adding my 2c - in my top 3 most disturbing was a work trip to San Francisco, and witnessing the mega wealthy tech moguls juxtaposed with the poor destitute souls begging on the street. It’s just wrong, and something about how it works in Cali is just so in your face. Made me sick and never wanted to visit there again.
You need to visit South Africa to see the wealthy and poor.
Our representatives don't represent us.
Those people that you get up in arms in online arguments defending? They're put there by the ruling class to take advantage of your ignorance.
The people who actually want to solve these problems are people we've never heard of because the ruling class makes sure they get no recognition.
I'd say about 1-2% of votes go towards politicians that fight for the working class.
TBF if I were homeless I could live in cali, I would be left to die in most other states.
Yeah you sure about that? Gavin been on a crusade to do exactly that in California.
https://www.aclusocal.org/en/press-releases/aclu-report-californias-war-unhoused-people
Well yeah, you ever had to sleep outside in a Midwestern winter? I was lucky I had a car to sleep in, but if it was going to be a regular thing I mightve up and went to cali myself.
Depends on the part of California we're talking about. Not all of it is LA weather
Newsom is only different in the sense his constituents won't stand for this sort of thing.
I hope New York proves they won't, either.
New Yorkers love robber barons and maximizing profit at every turn.
Why would we expect them to get angry at businesspeople enriching themselves at the expense of everyone else if that's what they all want to do?
No wonder you Americans are fucked, you demand that democrats step up and hit back at trump and the moment one does, you guys shit on him and tear him down. Enjoy more trump i guess, since you clearly think he’s better than Newson
You're missing the point I think. People want better politicians, Democrats are better than Republicans meaningfully but not so meaningfully that they could fix the issues we're seeing in society. People like Cuomo and Newson are just power hungry people, who may be better than Trump but the people won't be satisfied with replacing their turd sandwich with ultra processed fast food, they want a healthy nutritious meal. Newson is fast food, it's a meaningful step up from turd sandwich but it won't fix the American diet.
It's Germany being upset at the traffic light coalition and then electing Merz. They went from one back stabbing party to unhealthy and destructive fast food. This will only upset people enough to eventually elect their version of a turd sandwich - the AFD.
I think the people you are talking to do understand this point, they just want to have a tantrum about it, and someone to blame.
You should really research Newsom some more. One example is that he hangs out with, and a gives a platform to, Charlie Kirk on his podcast but there are far worse things, too.
Newsom is not the guy.
Why research when you can just vote blue no matter who, as they platform fascists and treat the poor like dirt?
The critical failure of "vote blue no matter who" is that many of those who run under the blue banner are actually just opportunistic Republicans who happen to live in blue states or districts. They're Republicans who can't get elected running as their true selves, so they lie and pretend to be Democrats. And then you do vote for them, because "blue no matter who." And then they corrupt the party from the inside, and deliberately make it harder for Democrats to win in the future. Remember, these people aren't actually Democrats. They don't want the Democratic Party or Democratic values or goals to succeed. They're just a bunch of cynical Republicans pulling one over on the Democratic base.
The problem with "blue no matter who" is that it has no way to address outright fraudsters. You're electing 'Democrats' who literally want the Democratic party to fail.
"Blue no matter who" is a response to the republicans who just fall in line and vote for any (R). This is a way to suggest that anyone running as a democrat is better than someone running as a republican. Sure, a "DINO" or closet fascist is not a great option, but an out fascist is likely worse.
'Blue no matter who' is also an easy way to guide less-informed voters: fill in the circle, check the box, etc, next to the (D).
The real work, though, needs to happen earlier. This is where we address fraudsters. Be involved in primaries and kick these assholes out of office if they don't live up. Find candidates who will actually work for us and get them on the ballot -- and then the 'blue no matter who' will get them votes from the people who are not paying as much attention.
Diminishing the impact of the phrase only hurts our cause. If you see democratic politicians who are not living up, then find people to replace them.
Always glad to see Eugene Debbs still haunting the fascists and its enablers.
They're raised on a steady diet of propaganda that says that they're the Greatest Country in the World, with a perfect democracy created by visionary prophets who understood the whole of human history back in the late 18th century. Therefore, whenever they're forced to confront the fact that that isn't the case, they rationalize things by assuming that the present state of affairs is just an anomaly and that the perfect candidate is just around the corner who'll win universal support and usher in a new golden age.
They're incapable of understanding the idea that, when things are fucked, you're going to have to go through a long path consisting of several stages of not-quite-as-fucked before things become good.
you're fucked too to suggest people should vote non-republican, and then bitch when people vote for a true progressive.
I think you’re confused and lost
you're the one who is confused and lost here. I don't have a skin in the game. It's quite clear to me what liberals are doing and it's neither honest or decent.
Loyalty to the "lesser of two-evils" is worthless if one of the evils defers to the other.
Thank you! These people are about as entitled as it gets. And with no good reason! Their campaign to protest against good because it’s not perfect got us where we are. And I’m blown away by the fact that they just don’t fucking get it.
Thank you for pointing this out. This should be shouted from the mountaintops.