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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

People still get mad at me when I point this out to them, like I've just told them the Earth is flat.

No, Biden didn't lose just cause he was old. No, Labour UK isn't tanking in the polls just cause they're disappointing (the Conservatives were awful for 13 years and still won plenty elections). There's more. There's foreign meddling. And these people just refuse to believe it, as if their countries are impenetrable bubbles.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I used to work in organic growth and it's crazy what you could do in astroturf or brand growth as just a normal person. To think that governments that cannot be challenged would restrain themselves from using this weapon is sadly too optimistic.

The reason why EU and US arent so blatant because they can't just start a troll farm with publics approval.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would the U.S. need public approval for a troll farm? That shit is highly classified. If you think the U.S. doesn't do the same thing we accuse Russia and China of doing, I gotta bridge to sell you.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can't really hide thousands of employees under some maticsl "classified" seal.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah you can, they do it all the time.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

How did we build the atomic bomb then if we're so bad at keeping secrets? They literally thought it might ignite the entire atmosphere on fire. You think the public would have approved of that? You're gullible as fuck if you think the government doesn't hide this shit from us.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah yes because a 2025 troll farm for spamming internet with low effort propaganda is the same as 1940s secret atomic weapons program.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My god, you really are ignorant. I hope you're just a troll. Either way, im done here. This isnt a productive conversation anymore (if it ever was).

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So does Groom Lake have public approval?.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

What does area 51 have to do with internet propaganda? Go away troll

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The reason why EU and US arent so blatant because they can’t just start a troll farm with publics approval.

Doesn't reddit use heavily correspond to US military bases?

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why would it correspond to military bases? They can pay their people to shit post and host bots from home.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Cus with the military you already have a readymade pool of labor to work from, with basicaly zero democratic civilian oversight. Plus, a lot of them live on base.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The meddling is foreign and domestic and it comes from $$$$$$$.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

There is definitely foreign meddling but Keir Starmer ain't making it any harder too

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

5th generation warfare. https://digital.sandiego.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1293&context=ilj

These lame ass civil war pushers don't realize we are already in a war. They talk there shit as if we are going to be packing muskets in the street.