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I am sure this article has been shared before, however I wanted to have a look at this topic.
The articles short summary is this:

All 25 car brands we researched earned our *Privacy Not Included warning label – making cars the worst category of products that we have ever reviewed

I am currently driving a 2014 Ford Fiesta which just has a radio with a CD player and Bluetooth. I do not need more than that in a car.

The reason I am looking at all is that that the Fiesta does not belong to me and the friend owning it will be moving out in a bit, so I kinda need another one.

There seems to be one brand that is not as bad as the other ones (but still bad): Renault; mozilla's review...
Maybe I will have a look at their cars.

What do you guys think? Stick to older used cars and not use an EV or look at which of the manufacturers have the least bad privacy policy?

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[–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, the OEMs pay for it. They get sims that are prepaid for like 10 years.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which shows that wholesale, data subcriptions are probably a few dollars a year.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Depends entirely on the amount of data and the bandwidth.

Phoning home every hour is a couple of KB at most and doesn't matter how long it takes.

Streaming videos on the other hand, a lot more and you don't want to be waiting.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Makes me wonder if there's an easy way to get the car to start using a lot more bandwidth. Make the deal not worth it for the carriers anymore. Something that could be distributed for use on many cars, maybe used to give free internet to a wifi mesh in the vicinity of any of those cars.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

well I don't know what they collect and send but there was an article the other day about a fucking Bosch washsher sending 3.6 Gb of data a DAY

https://www.newsweek.com/homeowner-baffled-washing-machine-uses-3-6gb-internet-1862675

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Since it's in your car can you just use it to do what you want?

Like. I don't drive. But if I did I'm yanking that SIM card out.

There have to be people hacking these, right?

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably e-sim or heavily embedded in critical systems.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Makes sense.

Fucking horse shit.

While I'm glad I don't drive the idea of paying $60,000 for something that does whatever the fuck it wants without my say so makes me frothing mad.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I feel the same. But it goes for so much. My wife just bought a new phone and i'm angry for hours already. All that shit you need to remove and turn off. All the configurations "help" that starts and you must walk through that turns it all back on again and reinstalls bloat. And god damnit so many shit we had turned off on the old phone shows up on the new one. All privacy settings feel like placebo toggles. I'm done with "smart" devices.

It's possible, as long as its not an eSim or soldered to the PCB.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Since it’s in your car can you just use it to do what you want?

Yes. There is no follow-up. It is your car. End of story.