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[–] Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (20 children)

The main issue with these online communism vs capitalism debates is that people seem to always take the most extremist position of each ideology.

Marx was in favor of being paid for your hard work, and Adam Smith hated monopolies and the accumulation of wealth.

We can both agree that we hate oligarchs and dictators and find a common ground in between.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I wish it were that easy, but how do you find a common ground with a group that sucks Putin's dick and genuinely believes that censorship is a good thing? Can't even agree with them on the most universally agreeable concept that both are awful.

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

Censorship / free speech is hard to get right, especially in the online world.

I'm for an individual standing on a pulpit and expressing their views, so long as they can be held to account. If they put the lives of others at risk, spread dangerous lies or harrass others unjustly, and there is legal recourse through an independent legal system(s) .. no problem, because there are checks and balances. Many countries have a healthy foundation to support free speech.

OTOH, I am for restricting mis/dis-information campaigns by governments (also my own), corporations, special interest groups, and billionaires. We know it's possible to effectively manipulate people and it's really just another form of psychological warfare. The challenge is how to police such things (and when/what/how to educate/censor/fine/ban), with so much money and influence working against it ... all without infringing on citizen's rights.

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