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[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

To my dying day I’ll never understand this - surely he (and all of the others resigning in protest) could do more good staying and gumming up the works as opposed to leaving and having his place filled with a yes-man.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He may not have had much of a choice. It looks like they were about to fire him for not being a yes-man.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Admirals, while extremely high up, aren't the top of the food chain. He was being commanded to do bad stuff. His choices were to A) follow orders, B) not follow orders and be fired with a dishonorable discharge and all of his benefits for his family removed, C) follow orders but in a bad way that still kills innocent civilians while also slowly makes things slightly worse for his boss, D) retire honorably.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

"Staying and gumming up the works" could literally be interpreted as treason. Which is probably one of, if not the, most severe crime a citizen can commit.

The correct thing to do is make your stance crystal clear, let it be known for the record, and if that forces you into retirement, then at least there will be articles about it, like this one. And that shapes public opinion.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Military follow orders, if legal. Otherwise it doesn’t work.

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

To add to this. If you don't follow an order the onus is on you to prove that it is illegal not on them to prove that it is legal.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think sabotage is best done in labor positions, but Oscar Schindler showed it can be done from management positions as well. I remember much advice from the simple sabotage field manual that would be useful in the position he is leaving.