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[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is it really poisonous?? But people eat raw kale all the time....

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not poisonous enough.
Maybe for some animals, it is enough to stop them.

people eat raw kale all the time

People have been chewing and smoking tobacco all the time. Kale is nothing in comparison.
Also, just because Kale has some substance considered as a poison, doesn't mean it can't have something that is good for health.
I mean, look at me chew on Neem leaves every now and then.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay, so its like spicy stuff then? Is the "poison" what makes it bitter?

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is the “poison” what makes it bitter?

That, I can't say for sure.
But but considering there have been studies related to tolerance to different levels of tolerance to similar bitter foods, I'd say, you are close.

I remember one of my school teachers telling me about someone who died due to overconsumption of Neem leaves (he at around 15 - 20 a day). Now using an analogy: one can use Dettol™ antiseptic liquid to dress wounds, but you won't go around bathing in the concentrated stuff right? It is a poison after all.


Why I can't be sure: I haven't studied it.
But I do know there are cases where some plant thing has a salient substance, which affects behaviour, but is not the nutritional part.
So, if you were to take that substance and put it in something else that's bad for health, the subject (human/animal whatever) accustomed to that substance might attribute it to that original nutritional thing and eat the thing, but won't get health benefits from it. At the same, if you give the original nutritional thingy sans that substance that is naturally in the plant part, the subject may not realise that it is getting the original nutritional value.

So, this case might be that the poison and the bitter thing are the same, but it also might not be.

[–] xep@discuss.online 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All plants are, to various degrees. It's how they defend themselves.