Wait, it's all Brassica Oleracea?
this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2025
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One of the many veggies that comes from the wild mustard plant, related to cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage and shit like that.
Somone in the 00s convinced people it was a superfood.
I liked kale before it became popular!
Actually though, it is the superior dark leafy green for soups and stews. It doesnt get all slimy and gross like spinach does, and all the folds and wrinkles are good for holding on to the broth.
I genuinely enjoy kale and have for a long time.
It's refreshing to read comments like yours. As lefty as Lemmy tends to be, people still mysteriously engage in vegan bashing. Like, people are concerned about climate change but simultaneously make fun of people for not eating meat, the leading cause of CO2 emissions?
If you're from the USA: https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions
The main contributors to emissions are industrial, residential, commercial, and transportation. Agriculture comes after that, of which meat forms a proportion.
That makes it alright i guess.
I am going to call this out, because I see this a lot, and I find it rather unpleasant. An assertion is made, such as "what you've said is incorrect, and here is why." The assertion cannot be challenged with logic, and so it is is instead challenged emotionally, such as with the statement "that makes it alright, I guess."
Did I say that makes it alright?
Well I still eat meat too, but yea vegan bashing is pretty cringe I think. What kind of asshole makes fun of someone taking on personal sacrifices for a cause they believe in?
... like half of my damn country 😑
It was crucifered for your dietary sins. You must respect the B. oleracea.
A "poisonous"^[well, at least it was trying to be poisonous. Give it some credit.] leafy plant that you can detoxify^[that's called cooking] rather straightforwardly and then eat.
Is it really poisonous?? But people eat raw kale all the time....
Not poisonous enough.
Maybe for some animals, it is enough to stop them.
people eat raw kale all the time
People have been chewing and smoking tobacco all the time.
Kale is nothing in comparison.
Also, just because Kale has some substance considered as a poison, doesn't mean it can't have something that is good for health.
I mean, look at me chew on Neem leaves every now and then.
Okay, so its like spicy stuff then? Is the "poison" what makes it bitter?
Is the “poison” what makes it bitter?
That, I can't say for sure.
But but considering there have been studies related to tolerance to different levels of tolerance to similar bitter foods, I'd say, you are close.
I remember one of my school teachers telling me about someone who died due to overconsumption of Neem leaves (he at around 15 - 20 a day). Now using an analogy: one can use Dettol™ antiseptic liquid to dress wounds, but you won't go around bathing in the concentrated stuff right? It is a poison after all.
Why I can't be sure: I haven't studied it.
But I do know there are cases where some plant thing has a salient substance, which affects behaviour, but is not the nutritional part.
So, if you were to take that substance and put it in something else that's bad for health, the subject (human/animal whatever) accustomed to that substance might attribute it to that original nutritional thing and eat the thing, but won't get health benefits from it.
At the same, if you give the original nutritional thingy sans that substance that is naturally in the plant part, the subject may not realise that it is getting the original nutritional value.
So, this case might be that the poison and the bitter thing are the same, but it also might not be.
All plants are, to various degrees. It's how they defend themselves.
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