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A growing number of people are getting really comfortable with the idea of being literal Nazis.
It's not even an allegiance to "National Socialism" or the NSDAP, per se.
Some people are aroused by the prospect of telling people, with impunity, that they or their group are in charge of everything forever and everyone has to applaud it on pain of torture and death.
They have a perverse, sometimes sexual, stimulation at the prospect of threatening, abusing, and submitting people to their doctrine of what they unilaterally deem to be the natural order of things.
Simply put, they feed, at every level, on the pain and misery they cause.
Naziism is just an ideology that appeals to some common instincts, which becomes an issue when enough of them are in precarity that they warm up to making the ideas policy.
It doesn't make for a very good state. Incompetence and nepotism rises to the top. Data driven science is tossed aside for ideology-driven rhetoric. Officials govern on vibes resulting in famine, plague and war. Also the country turns into the very kind of shithole it accuses other nations of being.
Eventually, you have bombers from rival countries blocking the the sun over the capitol. International tribunals exercise judgement and enforce their law, since the nazis failed to provide rule of law to their own. Children pick up pieces of the trainwreck.
And we learn (or fail to learn) once again why we don't let the fascist autocrats take over, even when they are very, very rich.
We in the US have a choice: clean up the mess early, or let China clean it up for us. And China will make us jolly sorry if we make them clean it up. We'll be their buggery bitch for a century or two at least.
Well, not like it changed from before ww2. Well, maybe it did for the next 2 weeks.
That's not true at all. For roughly 70 years, being fully fascist was very much a fringe thing that you'd be shunned by normal people for. Even the most callous paleoconservatives would categorically shun any Nazi or other openly fascist person.
Then decades of gradual and accelerating rightward drifting of the Overton Window (for which the Democrats' ineptitude as the SUPPOSED opposition party bear a lot of the responsibility) and normalization of outright lying as a political strategy inevitably led to a fascist demagogue like the Mango Mussolini and now fascism is the new mainstream "conservatism".
I think a big part of it is that too much time has passed since the last bunch were dealt with. Most people who remember that are dead now.
See also polio survivors and the rise of antivaxxers
It's also an education problem. Instead of "yay we're the good guys, we beat the bad guys", there should have been more understanding of how the bad guys got so bad, and why the USA always had the potential to go down the same road. But if you're looking at it on a superficial level, you can think you're automatically safe from that, just because you have different names, different locations, different flags. And because you're the good guys.
Don't forget the ACLU protecting Illinois Nazi hate speech.
Illinois nazis? I hate Illinois nazis.