I was trying to think for a couple days on what can be done to make Linux phones a reality. Then I realized the EU is already pushing for more Open Source/ Linux to be used so why not make the most of it?

So if I may make a couple suggestions for Europe Linux enthusiasts and collectively all of us to push for:

1st. For EU and Europe to partner up with PostmarketOS, Mobian, Ubuntu Touch, Edited In: Next Iteration of GrapheneOS for their partnership, and FSF Librephone Project to fund/produce/distribute open source repairable changable OS linux phones . Then for future tablets. To have multiple eggs developing

2nd. For EU and Europe to partner up with KDE, Framework, and Tuxedo Computers to fund/produce/distribute Laptops/Computers

Edited In: 3rd. Partner up with OEM Manufacturers such as Nokia and Motorola. Both of whom have good track records

Linux Community over there has so much ability to grow Linux if everyone there collectively gets it done. I humbly request you do that and I’ll do the same. Who should I call to get all this going as well? Want to help do this in a way that benefits all sides while keeping those projects independent

(I would have posted this on LinuxPhone but this community is way bigger and still open source related)

Really hoping all of you in and out of Europe and EU can push for it to be done. Edited In: Maybe Latin, African, and Asian Countries can partner up as well to make it happen even faster. But the most protections are within the EU so far

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[–] despite_velasquez@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Europe… the guys that want backdoors into all encrypted communication… the guys that want to give Google a big fat contract for app attestatio for their age verification apps…

Europe…? You guys thought of Europe? I feel like the entire EU policy right now is anathema to an Open Source Phone

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Europe... the guys that want backdoor into all encrypted communications" is a weird thing to say considering that every attempt of such a law failed because they didn't have the majority.

"Europe.... where a minority of politicians have continually failled to get a backdoor into all encrypted communications" would be far more accurate.

[–] despite_velasquez@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The rejection of the bill wasn’t on principle, but technicalities, the bill will be back with edits, Denmark is already aiming for December

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh interesting, technicalities like? I wrote to a bunch of politicians and I was assured that they rejected it on principle.

Maybe they lied to me. But why would they lie to me but not the general public? Maybe the EU is a bunch of politicians and they all have their own opinions.

[–] despite_velasquez@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Depends on the country, of course there were politicians that disagreed on principle, but the voting on the issue wasn’t done by MEPs , if it’s MEPs you messaged

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're right, but it's more nuanced than that.

The EU is like a Hydra. Some heads are consumer facing, others are population control facing.

Success would mean distracting the control heads while wooing the population heads.

No easy task.

[–] despite_velasquez@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I can see that, tbf, thanks for the explanation

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Europe… the guys that want backdoors into all encrypted communication

Europe... the guys who rejected a proposal to put back doors into all encrypted communication.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yet every 1-2 years the same proposal comes back with a different name and they have to have the exact same discussions over again because it has already been talked to death so it just depends which EU Parliament members have switched sides because of totally-not-bribary from lobbyists and nationalists.

This time around was razor thin margins.

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The fact it has been attempted and rejected multiple times and has to be proposed under different guises supports the idea that the EU is not actually friendly to the idea of backdoors to encryption, and, as you just pointed it out, it is the meddling of lobbyists and nationalists that keeps the proposal coming back.

[–] despite_velasquez@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The rejection of the bill wasn’t on principle, but technicalities, if you look at most countries that opposed, the bill will be back with edits, Denmark is already aiming for December

[–] Batmorous@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I get your point but I mean any countries actually lead by people who want better whether it is Europe or other countries such as Latin America, Africa, or Asia. I'm just getting the ball rolling. Genuinely asking, do you know other countries with stronger protections? Also those things are getting blocked from happening even though they keep trying. It still stands they are moving away from big tech and switching to open source alternatives which is an opportunity. Doing nothing won't grow the ecosystem and this is one many possibilities to grow altogether. Very often things worth fighting for are not easy

We can do it with multiple countries as well to make it less centralized of an effort