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First of, ACAB. There's no denying that American police are steeped in institutionalized racism and violence.

But secondly, I'd like to point out that conservatives will never view men's mental health as a real issue (cops are disproportionately male), and liberals will never view cops as human enough to have mental health issues.

The United States is the country with highest rates of civilian gun ownership in the world. Every police encounter has an inherently higher risk of gun violence. Now, cops frequently provoke when they should deescalate. But multiple things can be true at the same time. Policing as a profession attracts narcissists and sociopath, policing as an institution enables that behavior, and policing in a country with rampant gun ownership is a highly stressful and traumatic experience.

I say this as a survivor of a mass shooting. Gun violence changes how you look at your environment and the people in it. There is no room and no person that escapes your unease and suspicion. I can only imagine what a work environment that perpetually affirms those suspicions could do to one's mental health.

None of this excuses police brutality. I just think that we need to start looking at cops as legitimately mentally ill people, whether they are sociopathic or traumatized.

Destigmatizing men's mental health means every man's mental health, and the left's inability to address this blind spot is allowing the manosphere to dress its alpha male bullshit in police and paramilitary aesthetics.

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[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Relevant, but there was an incident in the news where a Californian cop murdered a couple in their home. It later came out during investigation and audits that he failed his psychological exam. The same thing with many others just in that department - failing the exam and still being active duty. So the sheriff’s dept was under fire and had to re-test people and strip their badge/gun if they failed. But the problem is likely very pervasive amongst law enforcement. This whole sweeping mental health under a rug.

https://abc7news.com/post/alameda-county-sheriffs-deputies-psych-exam-scores-failed-exams-devon-williams/12269789/

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is horrifying for so many to fail their psych exam. However, I would also question if this is the most effective approach to better policing outcomes.

Psych exams in volatile workplaces are contradictory due to self reported elements in the exam. In aviation, there is a phenomenon where pilots historically masked mental health issues because a diagnosis was a death sentence to their careers. Paradoxically, acknowledging and allowing pilots to fly with these issues while being medicated has led to better outcomes.

The police who answered truthfully in the exam were fired, but that begs the question of whether the remainder were mentally sound or simply knew how to mask themselves in the psych exam.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago

I don’t think you’ve missed this but I’m going to say it anyway…maybe don’t make failing the exam a punishable offense.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

had to re-test people and strip their badge/gun if they failed

And I wonder how many of those stripped of their badge and gun went a county over and got hired?

Problematic officers are usually just moved around when they get in trouble, so I have no faith that the officers with mental health issues actually got help or actually removed from the force entirely. And that's assuming those who didn't fail the second time legitimately got that score and didn't have a thumb in the scale....