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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean, at a high level it is very much the concept of ICE from Gibson et al back in the day.

Intrusion Countermeasures Electronics. The idea that you have code that is constantly changing and updating based upon external stimuli. A particularly talented hacker, or AI, can potentially bypass it but it is a very system/mental intensive process and the stronger the ICE, the stronger the tools need to be.

In the context of AI on both sides? Higher quality models backed by big ass expensive rigs on one side should work for anything short of a state level actor... if your models are good (big ol' "if" that).

Which then gets into the idea of Black ICE that is actively antagonistic towards those who are detected as attempting to bypass it. In the books it would fry brains. In the modern day it isn't overly dissimilar from how so many VPN controlled IPs are just outright blocked from services and there is always the risk of getting banned because your wifi coffee maker is part of a botnet.

But it is also not hard to imagine a world where a counter-DDOS or hack is run. Or a message is sent to the guy in the basement of the datacenter to go unplug that rack and provide the contact information of whoever was using it.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the context of AI on both sides? Higher quality models backed by big ass expensive rigs on one side should work for anything short of a state level actor… if your models are good (big ol’ “if” that).

Turns out Harlan Ellison was a goddamn prophet when he wrote I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have no clue how you think these two are related in any way, except for the word “AI” occurring in both.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tbf, every day that goes by is starting to feel more and more like we're all being being tortured by a psychotic omnipotent AI... With a really boring sense of humor.