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I’m perfectly fine with this one. It gives America a second chance to undo all of Trump’s pardons.
more like another step in unravelling any and all of American government's legitimacy
It wasn’t too long ago when the US gave telecommunication companies retroactive immunity for spying on Americans. There are already way too many options for presidential immunity, pardons and commutations that are used to protect criminals from prosecution.
The GOP is already a full kleptocratic organization with zero intent to govern for the good of Americans.
Should pardons really exist though?
Honestly? That's a separate discussion. This is the Republicans and the president effectively openly telling us all they're never leaving power again. Because you know they would not stand for a Democratic administration having that power.
They should yes. They're for rescuing people caught in the system that shouldn't be.
They are not supposed to be what they're used for in the modern era .
I’d feel a whole lot better if there were a system tha would prevent autocrats from just bailing out their rich friends & acquaintances…
It cuts both ways. It gives authoritarians the ability to do corruption, and it gives actual stewards of the law the ability to undo huge amounts of damage done by authoritarians. The idea is that the voters are meant to pick which one they prefer. If the voters can't make that decision, or the system collapses then the pardon power doesn't really matter anyway.
Good.
The US really needs a fresh start, from scratch.
Let's see who ends up running that. Government by the Walmarts, for the Amazons.
Oh, but at what costco!
So you genuinely believe they would give the office of the president this power if they ever thought anyone else would wield that power? This is a clear signal that Republicans will not cede power peacefully.
The problem is this will be selectively applied. Democrats won't "stoop so low" as to void pardons, and Republicunts will keep voiding them as suits their purpose. Neither side of course will address any larger structural issue than that
But the Dems won't use it because it isn't proper and how it was done.