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What Graham Platner Said When a Trans Mainer Asked: 'Will You Stand Up for Me?'
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Can you expand on why you believe this?
When it comes to politics, if they do not say exactly the words, they mean something entirely different.
What he actually said:
Why are we knocking on doors? That is never specified. For animal rights? Has he ever knocked on a door in favor of trans rights? Does his (elected) job include knocking on doors for trans rights?
He did not say, “I will stand up for,” or “I would vote in favor of,” Trans rights.
I know this guy is campaigning that he’s not a politician… Just a regular guy… But every regular guy who has ever gone into politics does the same stuff.
Also, he has a Nazi tattoo on his chest… And sure let’s give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t know it was a Nazi tattoo when he got it, but that raises some flags as to his commitment to trans rights when he gives an answer that is dancing around.
A two day old account with 50+ comments doing nothing but stirring up shit about how no one meets your purity test and accusing everyone in this thread of being from ML for not thinking "yes, I will stand with you" (coming from a marine) is an inadequate answer to the question "will you stand with me?".
Maybe you are here in good faith, but it sure as hell doesn't seem like it.
Do better.
Ahh read between lines and assume what they mean to confirm the negative view you already have. Very healthy and not the standard MO of conspiracy theorists.
It's fine for you to be concerned that it means what you say, but you are emphatically stating that your assumption is the truth. Even if you're right, your methodology is flawed.
You sound like a republican or, like a person who wants right wing people to gain power within the United States. Perhaps that has to do with the fact that you are an ML, and your only desire is to see the United States crushed. Maybe that’s why you’re trying to push the idea that recognizing hypocrisy in government officials is “crazy”
Haha, not at all. You can review my comments if you want. I'm a person who is interested in having proof and facts instead of assumptions. I am of course worried about fake progressives and people like Fetterman, but deciding the conclusion and molding to facts to match it is exactly how we get people believing in nonsense.
I listen fairly often to a debunk/analyzing show of Alex Jones called Knowledge Fight. They also sometimes review others. I also listen to Know Rogan, which is a similar show critically analyzing Joe Rogan, as well as several other skeptical podcasts etc. Something they all and I as well agree on is we shouldn't work off of preconceived notions like the subjects of their shows do, but instead make sure our assertions are backed up with evidence and truth. As I said, you have every right to be worried; that isn't my criticism.
However, if you just do the same thing the worst right wing influencers do by making a decision and then making any minor difference to how you assume they should respond mean your preconceived notion is correct, how do you convince people that when the ring wing does it, it's wrong, but when you do it, it's right?
You sound exactly like an ML trying to crush the United States by dismissing anyone who questions the intention of the politicians that you want elected.
If you actually were worried about fake politicians like Fetterman, you would be taking this guy a little bit more seriously. There are a lot of red flags around him – and while I’m not saying we should write him off entirely… I’m saying his words matter and you are saying his words do not.
You’re also quickly accusing me of conspiracy theory which is a telltale sign of your actual intentions. What a joke.
I mean, I'm a black American living in Georgia. Acceleration would mean my death, probably faster than most. To me you sound like exactly what you're accusing me of. I'm not specifically defending this politician, but your accusations are wild and you act like you're certain. While I did compare your statement to the like of conspiracy theory, you're also saying I'm Republican, then militant left. While I can have some things I agree with those further left than I, I stand only to have negative repercussions for being accelerationist, and I do truly wish we can survive without collapse. Whether it can actually happen at this point is a point of doubt, but I'm nowhere to to point of wanting a collapse.
I've never owned a gun, never fired one, and am rather hesitant to hurt people, even if they're reprehensible. I honestly don't know how I'd survive collapse. It's a self serving position for me to not want collapse, and I also believe people can change. I don't know if this guy has, but I'd rather not make up role for him to hang himself; if he's a problem he should be judged by not imagined faults, but confirmed ones. You still have the right to not choose him, just be careful that you don't let preconceived opinions dictate how you judge everyone.
I would very strongly suggest that you reconsider your stance on guns. You may not want to hurt other people to protect yourself, but there are surely other people in your community that need someone to stand with and for them. I think we all hope that the day never comes that it's necessary, but I think that the quote I heard was, "si vis pacem, para bellum."
I know a few people in the north Georgia area that are quite welcoming to new people. I can suggest at least one trainer out in Rome. There are a few gun stores that don't seem to be full of Trump shit. Unfortunately, I didn't ever get south of Atlanta, so if you're in e.g. Macon or Savannah, I don't know anyone directly.
BTW - I've heard him speak in person. I've seen how Platner dealt with MAGA hecklers. I think that his solutions are simplistic, because the system is wildly complex, but I think he's got the right ideas. If he's undercover as a Nazi, he sure as shit as me fooled.
I’m going to stop with I’m A black America living in Georgia.
Prove it, goodbye.
No one believes my lived experiences either and "prove it" isn't you're prerogative. They did, but seriously, this is a trash demand.
Oh look another ML. You guys love to swarm
And you really like to lump everyone together so you can stereotype them and blanket dismiss them to avoid and ignore any actual productive engagement.
No, Maeve is an ML. And having a productive engagement is not actually possible with an ML. There is a very scripted playbook
Let me just double check here, by ML are you meaning users from lemmy.ml? Or something else?
I think you watch too many youtube streamers.
I can safely say I have not watched a YouTube streamer in my life.
Then switch to decaf and talk to some people who are in the service or have served and prepare to get laughed at for suggesting it.
This is a "hasan's dog" thing all over again, it's overblown bullshit meant to distract you from actual nazis running for office or in office now, people who aren't even subtle or ashamed. We're not in some cloak and dagger thing where they're sneaking in by pretending to be progressives, it's media-fueled hysteria.
I’m not entirely sure where you’re going with all of this, but I’m just commenting on his quote and how he did not Answer the question. The fact that you’re getting angry about this curious.
That you translate this as "anger" tells me we're not going to have productive communication. Pretty much everyone pounding the "nazi" drum on this seem pretty reactionary.
A person who supports the right wing would say “Nazi drum beating is reactionary”
Thank you for proving my point. This is why we don't have good things, provocateurs like you who literally rather us lose and get herded into boxcars than actually unify and have any measure of success and progress.
It's the same as the MAGAts who want daddy to choke them but from a twisted alternate angle. I don't get it, I hope I never do. May you find some way to feel persecuted that doesn't interfere with actual society or politics.
Nice try ML
LOL lazy argument is lazy
If you take part of the guys statement and ignore the rest of it, and fixate on him not using the precise words "stand up", I guess I can understand what you are getting at. But in context, he seems to be expressing the exact opposite of what you are claiming.
If I focus on what he actually said, and not what you want me to think he means… l o l
LOL. You can't claim to focus on what he actually said when you're responding to an edited version of his answer designed to confirm your preconceived notions.
You’re grasping at straws now.
I disagree with you but you have beautiful fingers and are under no obligation to doxx yourself for anyone, ever.
It’s amazing how when you come back online I get messages from several different users within a few minutes but then nothing in between
Lol! I proved it so now you accuse me of botting? Thanks man, I had a great laugh. Anywho, game time, have a great night.